What does it mean to "believe in climate change"?

[SnailyBoy]

I used an average of two different rankings, a good scientist never relies on just one source

 

How did you ensure that the data sets to produce the rankings were comparable to be averaged?

[unbeliever]

"In the 2014 EPI ranking, the top five countries were Switzerland, Luxembourg, Australia, Singapore, and the Czech Republic."

 

http://epi.yale.edu/epi/country-rankings

 

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They didn't guess though, did they?

 

That's your interpretation based on your own bias.

 

Nonsense.

 

I'm not being biased. I'm pointing out bias.

They've made inferences rather than gathering facts. That's guessing.

There have been multiple direct surveys since, proving the bias in this paper, intentional or not. They now know that the 97% is not accurate. But they repeat it anyway. They're liars.

Edited August 2, 2015 by unbeliever

[El Cid]

How did you ensure that the data sets to produce the rankings were comparable to be averaged?

 

I am happy for you to come up with a better one

[unbeliever]

So far we have only 2 votes from believers, one of whom expects a warming rate short of catastrophic. Why is it we're spending all this money on "decarbonisation" again?

[El Cid]

So far we have only 2 votes from believers, one of whom expects a warming rate short of catastrophic. Why is it we're spending all this money on "decarbonisation" again?

 

There isnt a poll that asks whether people people in climate change or not, just skeptical.

People in general do not know any scientific details about climate change. You would be better off writing to the local newspaper, try drum up support for your cause, speak to your local MP.

[SnailyBoy]

So far we have only 2 votes from believers, one of whom expects a warming rate short of catastrophic. Why is it we're spending all this money on "decarbonisation" again?

 

<1% voted and you're drawing conclusions?

[unbeliever]

<1% voted and you're drawing conclusions?

 

Yes.

Anybody who didn't vote is considered to have abstained.

If they don't like it they can vote at any time.

[SnailyBoy]

Yes.

Anybody who didn't vote is considered to have abstained.

If they don't like it they can vote at any time.

 

Brilliant...

[unbeliever]

Brilliant...

 

Why thank you. I do my best.

 

 

Perhaps you think my question contains an invalid premise? Or is unfairly worded?

If so, then by all means explain why. If not, then perhaps you'd state your answer.

 

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There isnt a poll that asks whether people people in climate change or not, just skeptical.

People in general do not know any scientific details about climate change. You would be better off writing to the local newspaper, try drum up support for your cause, speak to your local MP.

 

I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't understand what you mean by your first paragraph. Could you please clarify.

 

As to the second, rest assured that this forum is not the only place I debate these matters.

It's difficult as more prominent people who share my views are usually labelled "deniers" presumably in a PR attempt to suggest that we're comparable in some way to holocaust deniers; and refused a platform by the likes of the BBC to state our position.

Edited August 3, 2015 by unbeliever

[SnailyBoy]

Why thank you. I do my best.

 

 

Perhaps you think my question contains an invalid premise? Or is unfairly worded?

If so, then by all means explain why. If not, then perhaps you'd state your answer.

 

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I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't understand what you mean by your first paragraph. Could you please clarify.

 

As to the second, rest assured that this forum is not the only place I debate these matters.

 

I don't do polls, as the poll data tends to be used incorrectly to draw conclusions. Just like yours.