The politicians of today are an insult to you and me

[Ela James]

 

Individually people are smart, collectively they're as thick as pig****.

 

Look at Greece’s last election …, Spain …, and now the wave hitting the Labour party in UK …., all indications point towards one thing: People are waking up … slowly but waking up … and getting smarter and more difficult to convince and persuade

Waking up because they found out that they had been taken for a ride for a long long time ( … we still are to some extent … eg: giving a bank boss £2m bonus while the bank is still in intensive care supported by public money )

…………… I look at it this way: 20 years ago no one would have thought it possible the USA electing a black man for president …, not any man but a very smart and honest one - someone who isn’t just black, but had been against Iraq war before it started, a stand very risky to take but the public knew better than, and successfully resisted, the expert ( media & co = big money )

…………….. Another example: who would have thought there would be a day where you could pick in London the Evening Standard newspaper for free … and the paper is still in business!

…………. who would have thought groups of protestors in Washington DC and New York city calling themselves the Tahrir Square Revolutionists?

……… I am not English and feel able to see things without colours and/ or spices … , I love this country that I consider my true home because of one thing: the decency of the British people, .. unlike any other, the British are simply unique … have always been!

The opposite can be said about the ruling class …. often I am just shocked and speechless!

( I often ask myself: what makes and how come a wonderful people choosing someone not worthy of even cleaning my own shoes? - I am originally from Africa .

[Eric Arthur]

How's waking up working out for them in Greece and Spain?

[Ela James]

Waking up = seeing reality , opposite to dreaming

[unbeliever]

Waking up = seeing reality , opposite to dreaming

 

If waking up means embracing the same socialist nonsense that has failed us so many times in the past, I'll stay asleep thanks.

 

It's the same old story when those ignorant of history and lacking common sense lock on to socialism:

Capitalism isn't perfect.

Something must be done.

This is something.

Therefore we must do it.

 

Obama's a good guy, but then so is McCain. McCain would have run the country far better. Should have chosen somebody better as a running mate. Anybody would have done. A warm turd would have been a better choice.

Edited August 11, 2015 by unbeliever

[Eric Arthur]

Waking up = seeing reality , opposite to dreaming

 

How's it working out, this wide awake reality?

[Ela James]

If waking up means embracing the same socialist nonsense that has failed us so many times in the past, I'll stay asleep thanks.

 

It's the same old story when those ignorant of history and lacking common sense lock on to socialism:

Capitalism isn't perfect.

Something must be done.

This is something.

Therefore we must do it.

 

Obama's a good guy, but then so is McCain. McCain would have run the country far better. Should have chosen somebody better as a running mate. Anybody would have done. A warm turd would have been a better choice.

 

Capitalism ...... socialism .....etc-ism ... pick and choose anything you like, ....

ultimately: 1 + 1 = 2

 

Soon when the general public become sharper and more focused they would vote for a successful manager … someone who can manage things and make them better with limited resources

( example: 2 people, each started with £10k. A month later one is left with £11, the other £12 … simple, no? ) that is management and success.

Is he capitalist? socialist? … who cares?

Principles and ideals do nothing to the starving …. they do not solve a thing … that debate is old and no longer valid … today people talk about food banks … young uni girls doing escort work making £ £ …. and … and ….

capitalist .. or … socialist ??

 

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How's it working out, this wide awake reality?

 

In any issue with any problem .. be it personal .. political .. running a country …. the first thing that should be done: Identifying the problem … understanding it … ,

for that to happen one needs to be awake

[LeMaquis]

How's waking up working out for them in Greece and Spain?

 

If you're going to use the Spanish government as an argument against left-wing politics you should be aware that since 2011 the Spanish government has been run by the very right-wing PP.

[Anna B]

Quite so.

 

 

 

I presume this is the modern socialist definition of the word austerity, which seems to mean "not increasing public spending as fast as we would like".

As opposed to the proper meaning of the word which would be "making everybody poorer" in Labour's case by crashing the economy.

 

I suppose you might be right. Maybe Labour did crash the economy on purpose so that there would be more poor people dependent on the state to survive. It's far more likely that they're just a bunch of muppets.

Lurching further toward statism is just going to seal their doom though.

 

Corbyn does seem like a decent man, but he's pushing a failed ideology and there are still enough people around who remember the '70s.

If you really want to rescue the party, get the other Milliband back. Really should have been him the last time as that's who the party voted for. Like him or not (and I don't) he's competent and convincing.

 

What? Nowhere have I said that Labour crashed the economy!

 

I have said over and over again that it was the fault of the bankers. I repeat once more for clarity - the downturn in the British economy was part of a global crisis set in motion by the Banking institutions greedy Bankers. Check back my other posts. I've been saying it at great length till I'm blue in the face. Check the internet for the full explanation complete with diagrams, figures and graphics! You can't miss it.

 

Neither can you miss the fact that the majority of people are poorer. Not just the ones that have to resort to foodbanks etc. You can't cut services to the extent the Tories have done without making everyone poorer. Maybe not immediately, but when you need those services (as you surely will, as you get older) they simply won't be there. And don't forget you will be working longer and paying more tax for the privilege...

[janie48]

"The politicians of today" I doubt they are any different to politicians of the past, some good some bad.

I like to believe most of ours have some degree of integrity, but perhaps I am being naïve.

[Jeffrey Shaw]

"The politicians of today" I doubt they are any different to politicians of the past, some good some bad.

I like to believe most of ours have some degree of integrity, but perhaps I am being naïve.

One difference: far more 'career' politicians nowadays, with no experience of anything else.