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Is Sheffield the 4th or 5th largest city?


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Originally posted by fuzzy

If we are so big - Why do they never put us on the weather map??? :loopy:

 

Cos nobody needs to know where we are ;):thumbsup:;)

 

 

They quite often do now, actually. I've noticed the BBC have started showing Sheffield more often on their main weather, and other cities too that they don't usually show, though admittedly they still show other cities like Manchester a lot more.

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Originally posted by richard

This is what the UN has to say about the matter as at 1996. http://millenniumindicators.un.org/unsd/citydata/default.asp?contid=5&cid=826

 

London 'Greater London' population 7,074,265.

Birmingham population 1,020,589

Leeds population 726,939

Glasgow population 616,430

Sheffield population 530,375

Bradford population 483,422

Liverpool population 467,995

Edinburgh population 448,850

Manchester population 430,818

Fife population 349,300

Cardiff population 315,040

Dudley population 312,194

Wigan population 309,786

 

I never knew Wigan or Dudley were so big.

 

 

I live in a village in between St. Helens and Wigan and the reason that Wigan is quoted as having a population of 310,000 is because following the local government reorganisation in 1974, Wigan Metropolitan Borough was one of six metropolitan areas that was formed. The creation of this new borough swallowed up several neighbouring Lancashire towns and villages, e.g. Leigh, Ashton-in-Makefield, Golborne, Atherton and Tyldesley plus many, many smaller places, taking the Wigan MBC boundary all the way up to the Salford border. Consequently, Wigan, which had previously been a medium sized town (approx. 100,000 pop.) suddenly jumped up the national table to make it the 12th largest metropolitan district in the country, and now spans the full distance across from Merseyside to Greater Manchester.

 

The problem with all this carving up was that whilst it may have suited to have local administrative boundaries, certain identities became blurred, and even lost. For example, I live just inside, and pay council tax to, St. Helens Borough, but have a Wigan postcode and Wigan telephone number. Until only a few years ago we used to come under the Preston Area (!!!) phonebook, and currently come under the Wigan and Bolton Area (!!!) Yellow Pages. We are in the Parliamentary Ward of St. Helens North, and our Euro Ward (!!) is Merseyside East, despite our address signifying we live in Greater Manchester...!?! Just south of us is Haydock (part of St. Helens, Merseyside), which was lumbered with a Warrington, Cheshire postcode somewhere along the way and just east of us is Ashton-in-Makerfield (pop. 35,000) part of which sits in St. Helens Borough and part of which sits in Wigan Borough. Confused.....??? You bet.....!!

 

Why can't we just go back to Lancashire, please.....?!?!?!

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Are you in somewhere like Newton Le Willows?

 

 

 

Originally posted by Lancs_Vinnie

I live in a village in between St. Helens and Wigan and the reason that Wigan is quoted as having a population of 310,000 is because following the local government reorganisation in 1974, Wigan Metropolitan Borough was one of six metropolitan areas that was formed. The creation of this new borough swallowed up several neighbouring Lancashire towns and villages, e.g. Leigh, Ashton-in-Makefield, Golborne, Atherton and Tyldesley plus many, many smaller places, taking the Wigan MBC boundary all the way up to the Salford border. Consequently, Wigan, which had previously been a medium sized town (approx. 100,000 pop.) suddenly jumped up the national table to make it the 12th largest metropolitan district in the country, and now spans the full distance across from Merseyside to Greater Manchester.

 

The problem with all this carving up was that whilst it may have suited to have local administrative boundaries, certain identities became blurred, and even lost. For example, I live just inside, and pay council tax to, St. Helens Borough, but have a Wigan postcode and Wigan telephone number. Until only a few years ago we used to come under the Preston Area (!!!) phonebook, and currently come under the Wigan and Bolton Area (!!!) Yellow Pages. We are in the Parliamentary Ward of St. Helens North, and our Euro Ward (!!) is Merseyside East, despite our address signifying we live in Greater Manchester...!?! Just south of us is Haydock (part of St. Helens, Merseyside), which was lumbered with a Warrington, Cheshire postcode somewhere along the way and just east of us is Ashton-in-Makerfield (pop. 35,000) part of which sits in St. Helens Borough and part of which sits in Wigan Borough. Confused.....??? You bet.....!!

 

Why can't we just go back to Lancashire, please.....?!?!?!

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