TJC1 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 What???!! Muslims are terrorists, not all, but a minority are. If you're ok to generalise about men being rapists (because a small minority are) then why not about Muslims? Your logic is again contradictory and selective. You're beginning to sound as loony as Corbyn. You are comparing muslim terrorists to male sexual offenders and offences? Whos the loony... Weve already been through this. One is common and wide spread and the other is 40bn to 1 chance. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 09:37 ---------- Millions of sexual related misdermeanours Vs 1 train terrorist attack in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detetcive Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It will happen if it makes money for the train companies and won't if it doesn't. Matters not a hoot if we "agree" with it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You are comparing muslim terrorists to male sexual offenders and offences? Whos the loony... Weve already been through this. One is common and wide spread and the other is 40bn to 1 chance. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 09:37 ---------- Millions of sexual related misdermeanours Vs 1 train terrorist attack in history. No, we're talking generalisation now. There is a minority of Muslims with extreme views. Some polls suggest a significant minority sympathise with IS. A minority of men are rapists - I would say a smaller minority than Muslims with extreme views based on polls, but proportionately is not relevant, both cases would be generalising about a whole group based on a minority. So, why ok with gender but not religion? This time, don't deflect, just answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You are comparing muslim terrorists to male sexual offenders and offences? Whos the loony... Weve already been through this. One is common and wide spread and the other is 40bn to 1 chance. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 09:37 ---------- Millions of sexual related misdermeanours Vs 1 train terrorist attack in history. Only 1 train attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Only 1 train attack? Perhaps they mean only one in the UK? But even Wiki says 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_involving_railway_systems Edited August 28, 2015 by cgksheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Perhaps they mean only one in the UK? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_involving_railway_systems So he means there have been millions of sexual attacks on UK trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 No, we're talking generalisation now. There is a minority of Muslims with extreme views. Some polls suggest a significant minority sympathise with IS. A minority of men are rapists - I would say a smaller minority than Muslims with extreme views based on polls, but proportionately is not relevant, both cases would be generalising about a whole group based on a minority. So, why ok with gender but not religion? This time, don't deflect, just answer. Why bring muslims or religion into this at all.? no issue with muslims on trains. Not relevant. No evidence this a problem. 100k rapes a year are just a fraction of the wider problem and a part of a localised problem in trains and stations. Although its a significant amount. The issue specifically is gropes, touches, assaults and sexual crime on trains and stations. Comments even. By men against women... ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:44 ---------- Only 1 train attack? In uk train useage history....1 terrorist attack by a group related to muslims..2005. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:45 ---------- Perhaps they mean only one in the UK? But even Wiki says 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_involving_railway_systems Other one is IRA ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:47 ---------- No, we're talking generalisation now. There is a minority of Muslims with extreme views. So go post on an anti extremist thread. Not related to train sex attacks at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Why bring muslims or religion into this at all.? no issue with muslims on trains. Not relevant. No evidence this a problem. 100k rapes a year are just a fraction of the wider problem and a part of a localised problem in trains and stations. Although its a significant amount. The issue specifically is gropes, touches, assaults and sexual crime on trains and stations. Comments even. By men against women... ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:44 ---------- In uk train useage history....1 terrorist attack by a group related to muslims..2005. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:45 ---------- Other one is IRA ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 10:47 ---------- So go post on an anti extremist thread. Not related to train sex attacks at all. The relation is the approach to discriminate against a whole group on the basis of the behaviour of a minority. You apply double standards but you're too blind to see it. In the last 20 yrs, more people have been killed on trains by Muslims than any other religion. Why no non-Muslim carriages? Because it's discrimination against a whole group on the back of actions by a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The relation is the approach to discriminate against a whole group on the basis of the behaviour of a minority. You apply double standards but you're too blind to see it. In the last 20 yrs, more people have been killed on trains by Muslims than any other religion. Why no non-Muslim carriages? Because it's discrimination against a whole group on the back of actions by a few. why muslims? Why religion? why not pigeons on the track...they cause more disruption than muslims. in your view there has to more than 50% of men comitting sexual crimes to be a 'majority' worthy of consideration.. loony left?...loony full stop..lol! ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 11:15 ---------- The relation is the approach to discriminate against a whole group on the basis of the behaviour of a minority. A female only carriage is not a punishment towards men. Although you see it like that for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 As a man you are seen as a potential predator and sex pest by many women. Get offended about it if you like. Thats the reality. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 08:18 ---------- hes a member of parliament. So he gets to vote on things. I suppose he could even put forwards his own motion. But he's in opposition, he has no effective power to implement a consultation like the one you say is being considered. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 11:44 ---------- You are comparing muslim terrorists to male sexual offenders and offences? Whos the loony... Weve already been through this. One is common and wide spread and the other is 40bn to 1 chance. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 09:37 ---------- Millions of sexual related misdermeanours Vs 1 train terrorist attack in history. The point is that you keep saying things like "men are sex pests" Whereas you'd object if someone else said "Muslims are terrorists". In both cases a minority of those groups fit those descriptions. I think you're doing it deliberately to wind people up though, since you are male yourself, and presumably not a rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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