Net migration at record high 330k

[TJC1]

How/why are more non-EU citizens coming into the country than EU citizens??

 

Surely we should have control of the numbers of non-EU citizens??

 

check out the other thread.....short answer is NO.

 

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Lots of ideas...not many solutions.

 

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do we want highly skilled and educuated workers from germany etc?

then we got to be in the EU.

 

do we need doctors etc from all over the world to prop up the NHS?

then we got to have a non-eu immigration policy.

 

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its the car washers, pot washers etc we dont need....but how do you stop?

[L00b]

How/why are more non-EU citizens coming into the country than EU citizens??

 

Surely we should have control of the numbers of non-EU citizens??

The UK does, and non-EU citizens getting into the UK on a visa are those who have successfully run the gauntlet of the UK's points-based system, which is designed to sort the wheat from the chaff (and does so quite effectively).

 

For non-EU immigrants, a more useful statistic would be the total number of applications and rejection ratio (I daresay most non-EU people who manage to get a visa, only get it at the 2nd or 3rd attempt).

 

I expect the Government will come out with these shortly by way of damage-controlling PR.

Edited August 27, 2015 by L00b

[geared]

So why the mega high number then, just tons and tons of applications??

[L00b]

So why the mega high number then, just tons and tons of applications??

It's not a mega-high number (-relative to the size/population of the UK), and yes, there are 'tons and tons' of applications (which is why I mentioned the refusal rate, as that would be an interesting statistic for contrast)...

 

...and only ever more and more of them, whilever the UK continues to outperform most other developed economies and to portray itself as the land of milk and honey, green pastures, rolling hills and streets paved of (figurative-) gold via BBC Worlwide programming

[Berberis]

David Cameron immigration pledge 'failed spectacularly' as figures show net migration almost three times as high as Tories promised

 

A pretty dismal showing all round.

 

As I've said before, I don't mind a member of the elite Bullingdon Club being PM, as long as they're actually competent.

 

But with The Boy Cameron (record net migration) and George Osborne (record borrowing) failing so dismally, the nation's "elite" ain't what it used to be.

 

Personally I prefer a PM who is trying to sort the problem other then the previous two who operated an open door policy.

 

Trying and failing is infinity better then not trying at all (the Labour Way).

[adrea]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34071492

 

 

Net migration of EU citizens was 183,000, up 53,000 from the year ending March 2014.

The number of those arriving from countries outside the EU was still larger, with net migration measured at 196,000, up 39,000 on a year earlier.

Expansion of the EU and the relatively fast recovery of Britain's economy are seen as key factors in the trend.

Among the other ONS findings based on the latest figures were:

Fewer people are leaving the UK, with emigration numbers dropping by 9,000 year-on-year

Other than EU countries, the nation with the highest number of citizens migrating to the UK in the 12 months to June was China, with 89,593 arrivals

India is the most common non-UK country of birth in the UK population - 793,000 UK residents were born in India

Polish is the most common non-British nationality, with 853,000 residents (including those born in the UK) describing their nationality as Polish

53,000 Romanian and Bulgarian citizens moved to the UK in the last year - almost double the 28,000 in the previous 12 months

There were 25,771 asylum applications in the year to June 2015, an increase of 10% compared with the previous 12 months

A total of 11,600 people were granted asylum or an alternative form of protection. The peak was in 2002 when there were 84,000 applications

 

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but asylum grants fall....

 

Contributing to the fastest growing population in Europe at 491,000 in 2014, but still only 118,760 new homes were built contributing to our housing crisis.

[Hots on]

Beyond a joke. Leaving the EU is the only way.

[TJC1]

Beyond a joke. Leaving the EU is the only way.

 

what about trade barriers?

 

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It's not a mega-high number (-relative to the size/population of the UK), and yes, there are 'tons and tons' of applications (which is why I mentioned the refusal rate, as that would be an interesting statistic for contrast)...

 

...and only ever more and more of them, whilever the UK continues to outperform most other developed economies and to portray itself as the land of milk and honey, green pastures, rolling hills and streets paved of (figurative-) gold via BBC Worlwide programming

 

its not huge, huge....and while the economy is good the natives arent restless.

[Hots on]

what about trade barriers?

 

 

Probably wouldn't materialise. Not much anyway. Besides, Britain is a global trading nation. We don't NEED to be in the EU at all.

[TJC1]

the TTIP reduces reliance on europe as a trading block. People seem to be scared though?

 

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we could do business with the USA, Japan and SE Asia. Cost of goods would come down....

 

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2010-to-2015-government-policy-free-trade/2010-to-2015-government-policy-free-trade