drummonds Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Cameron is playing games by making sure that there are more Tories in Lords to make sure that his hated policies will be passed. he's got a long way to go as blair appointed around 400, mostly from labour's ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossway Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Many of us remember Peter Hain from as long ago as the Stop the Seventies (Rugby) Tour when Hain was an arch leftie and (rightly) campaigned against Apartheid. Now, of course, he's got his snout in the trough, and has been made a member of the 'best Club in London' ('cos they pay you to join as opposed to you having to pay to join any of the others) Also, sadly, his native South Africa is a beacon of corruption and violence in a corrupt and violent continent (or,at least the sub-Saharan part -i don't know the northern part well) If you've got a white face it's too dangerous to venture out at night in Jo'burg. Funny how these guys become part of the Establishment in their later years after they've climbed the greasy pole. Edited August 27, 2015 by Mossway Typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladebeer Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 he's got a long way to go as blair appointed around 400, mostly from labour's ranks. So does that make it alright ,we are talking about the rights and wrongs of an obsolete old boy's club being used as a cynical political weapon. Blair was like all the rest, a self serving hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomgeg Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If this system didn't exist and somebody proposed it you would think they were mad. The Church of England, a completely unelected body even gets to send people there. We've also got the political cronies and politicians who've already paid back £55K in over claimed expenses, in some countries all the lot of them would have criminal records, even if they didn't fiddle themselves they knew the others were at it and did everything possible to cover it up, I believe in France it's a crime not to report a crime. Lord Kinnock, Lord Prescott, Lord Hague. What's all that about? A few years ago princess Anne's hairdresser got an MBE,WHAT! She's had the same hairstyle since 1960, when prince Edward appears in uniform he's got more medals than Kenny Everett used to have when he played the American General, he must have been brave that two weeks he was in the army. Then we have deserving cases who do charity work for years And get nothing, The man with the pram in Sheffield should have got a knighthood years ago. On a lighter note and I know he does a lot of charity work, but I would take Lenny Henry's knighthood away, he's put me off Premier Inns for life, who wants to stay in a hotel with a bloke snoring in the next room through paper thin walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 An absolute bargin, where else could you spend just short of a quarter of a million pounds a day for such skills as the Lords contribute. Meanwhile in the real world, it's simply jobs for the boys/girls, an utter disgrace. Do a days work while on the plonk and "they" can't prosecute you quickly enough, but 826 Parasites share £250,000 a day and we all smile while it happens. Angel1. Speaking of Plonk Angel, this'll make your blood boil! http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/if-you-want-to-see-the-gap-between-the-house-of-lords-and-reality-for-yourself-then-just-look-at-their-champagne-budget-9910611.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladebeer Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If this system didn't exist and somebody proposed it you would think they were mad. The Church of England, a completely unelected body even gets to send people there. We've also got the political cronies and politicians who've already paid back £55K in over claimed expenses, in some countries all the lot of them would have criminal records, even if they didn't fiddle themselves they knew the others were at it and did everything possible to cover it up, I believe in France it's a crime not to report a crime. Lord Kinnock, Lord Prescott, Lord Hague. What's all that about? A few years ago princess Anne's hairdresser got an MBE,WHAT! She's had the same hairstyle since 1960, when prince Edward appears in uniform he's got more medals than Kenny Everett used to have when he played the American General, he must have been brave that two weeks he was in the army. Then we have deserving cases who do charity work for years And get nothing, The man with the pram in Sheffield should have got a knighthood years ago. On a lighter note and I know he does a lot of charity work, but I would take Lenny Henry's knighthood away, he's put me off Premier Inns for life, who wants to stay in a hotel with a bloke snoring in the next room through paper thin walls. Hilarious but very true post,gave me the biggest smile of the day. Thanks:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If we HAVE to have a second house why not make it elected by proportional representation? Now if they really want to mess about then make it that we vote for, say 400 of them from the list of those in the house of lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If Cameron doesn't realise how much this is going to annoy people, he's thicker and more out of touch than I thought. ---------- Post added 28-08-2015 at 16:46 ---------- If we HAVE to have a second house why not make it elected by proportional representation? Now if they really want to mess about then make it that we vote for, say 400 of them from the list of those in the house of lords I'd like to see a certain number of ordinary people in there too. I think politicians and the like are becoming more and more remote from ordinary people and their everyday lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If we HAVE to have a second house why not make it elected by proportional representation? Now if they really want to mess about then make it that we vote for, say 400 of them from the list of those in the house of lords Maybe a better way would be to have one elected member from each local area council. That would better represent the political make-up of local areas and wishes and at the same time almost halve the numbers. Those people should then only be member for the lifetime of their respective elected councils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomgeg Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Anna B. It's not just Cameron, hence Lord Prescott etc I believe we've even got a Lord Mandy, we might even get a Lord Skinner then we'll have seen it all, but then again they are politicians so what can you expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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