drummonds Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I agree with the principle of don't have a ton of kids if you can't afford them. But how was she supposed to know that the government would suddenly cut tax credits, taking her from "I can afford them" into "I can't afford them"? What do you expect people to do when their financial situation changes beyond their control? so should a government change the rate of taxation when some folks rely on a high income to pay for a large mortgage or other types of loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I repeat as you seem to like doing. They won't lose a penny,they will just receive less, there's a fairly simple solution, if you can't afford kids don't have them or get a better paid job. And where does all this end? Some are saying we need people like her to keep the population up, so her five have five each recurring, the country will finish up with a population like China's. Ok, so are you suggesting that people who can't afford to pay for their children's education or healthcare directly shouldn't have them? After all, free at the point of use education and healthcare are a form of government benefit paid for by the rest of the taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Ok, so are you suggesting that people who can't afford to pay for their children's education or healthcare directly shouldn't have them? After all, free at the point of use education and healthcare are a form of government benefit paid for by the rest of the taxpayers. I've got an idea When they get ill or old people who don't have children (and complain about paying for other peoples' children) shouldn't be looked after by other peoples' children. er................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I agree with the piece, it annoys me no end that people that CHOOSE to have children automatically expect all the perks the government offers for doing so as being part of the package. The UK is already offering free education until Uni-age, sure-start centres and free healthcare. As a child-less couple we are paying for that and we don't have an issue with it, but tax-breaks? Get out of here... what about our tax breaks for choosing NOT to have kids and cost money to the state for their first 20 odd years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) big and small business contribute far more to charities and so do banks, i have been on many golf days and to charity auctions organised by banks and business which raises 100,s of thousands for good causes. That reminds me of those wonderful philanthropic casinos, who provide you with all the free food and drink you could possibly want, while in their establishment. Have you noticed those places never have clocks on the wall. ---------- Post added 19-09-2015 at 20:50 ---------- I agree with the principle of don't have a ton of kids if you can't afford them. Yes, believe it or not Prince Philip was also against large families and feared a population explosion. Edited September 19, 2015 by poppet2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I agree with the piece, it annoys me no end that people that CHOOSE to have children automatically expect all the perks the government offers for doing so as being part of the package. The UK is already offering free education until Uni-age, sure-start centres and free healthcare. As a child-less couple we are paying for that and we don't have an issue with it, but tax-breaks? Get out of here... what about our tax breaks for choosing NOT to have kids and cost money to the state for their first 20 odd years? Perks? Education and healthcare for children are not perks. What the blazes are you going on about? Who is going to clean your backside when you're an old git crapping in your underpants? Other peoples' kids that's who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Perks? Education and healthcare for children are not perks. What the blazes are you going on about? Who is going to clean your backside when you're an old git crapping in your underpants? Other peoples' kids that's who. My backside will be cleaned by a lovely Ukrainian lass, I am saving up to ensure that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I agree with the piece, it annoys me no end that people that CHOOSE to have children automatically expect all the perks the government offers for doing so as being part of the package. The UK is already offering free education until Uni-age, sure-start centres and free healthcare. As a child-less couple we are paying for that and we don't have an issue with it, but tax-breaks? Get out of here... what about our tax breaks for choosing NOT to have kids and cost money to the state for their first 20 odd years? Then youre as stupid as the moron who wrote the article. ---------- Post added 19-09-2015 at 21:13 ---------- Perks? Education and healthcare for children are not perks. What the blazes are you going on about? Who is going to clean your backside when you're an old git crapping in your underpants? Other peoples' kids that's who. He has no idea...just another reactionary crying about paying for public services. id love to know how much these people earn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slordy71 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 That reminds me of those wonderful philanthropic casinos, who provide you with all the free food and drink you could possibly want, while in their establishment. Have you noticed those places never have clocks on the wall. ---------- Post added 19-09-2015 at 20:50 ---------- Yes, believe it or not Prince Philip was also against large families and feared a population explosion. casinos are a choice ?? the same as choosing the number of kids you have love!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 casinos are a choice ?? the same as choosing the number of kids you have love!! Another numbnuts...how much you earn?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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