harvey19 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Please tell me why? Because you are not being objective. You are exhibiting a very biased view against the police and are unwilling to see the scene as anything but the police were in the wrong without knowing all the facts. You base your conclusion on a short video clip. There could have been a warrant out for the youth's arrest and he could have been suspected of other violent crimes(even murder of a police officer). You excuse the behaviour of a woman who was inflaming the situation and adding to the anti police view by providing a commentary and amazingly consider she would have been killed if she had done anything else. The police not arresting her for her behaviour and obscene language you find proves their guilt, I propose if they were guilty of anything they would have arrested her and did not do so as she was not the primary problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 If only you were as clever as you think you are. When you hear a burglar downstairs in your house dont forget to rush down with that limp stick of celery will you. The fact remains whether you think the force was disproportionate or not that he had every chance to comply and still didnt. Maybe the police train of thought is if he doesnt comply with a gun pointing at him then he wouldnt have complied anyway! If thats the case then would you take a knife to a gunfight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 If only you were as clever as you think you are. And you lose. When you make it personal you not only lose any cred you may have got but you also end the conversation. ---------- Post added 25-09-2015 at 16:43 ---------- Because you are not being objective. You are exhibiting a very biased view against the police and are unwilling to see the scene as anything but the police were in the wrong without knowing all the facts. You base your conclusion on a short video clip. There could have been a warrant out for the youth's arrest and he could have been suspected of other violent crimes(even murder of a police officer). You excuse the behaviour of a woman who was inflaming the situation and adding to the anti police view by providing a commentary and amazingly consider she would have been killed if she had done anything else. The police not arresting her for her behaviour and obscene language you find proves their guilt, I propose if they were guilty of anything they would have arrested her and did not do so as she was not the primary problem. Nice post, not very accurate mind but still, you obviously put a lot of thought into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 And you lose. When you make it personal you not only lose any cred you may have got but you also end the conversation. ---------- Post added 25-09-2015 at 16:43 ---------- Nice post, not very accurate mind but still, you obviously put a lot of thought into it. If you say so my friend. If you say so. Saves you having to give a legitimate answer though doesnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryRiley Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sandra_Bland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jonathan_Sanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Freddie_Gray Sandra Bland killed herself. How on earth is that the police's fault. She hated police and refused to cooperate with them which, rightly or wrongly led to her arrest. Eric Garner was a tragedy, awful police work. But he was breaking the law it's a very rare occurrence. Freddie Grey, well we're still unsure of the outcome. Even these are still a drop in the ocean. Some of them are definitely the result of police wrongdoing but considering the number of crimes committed each day they don't show a significant pattern of wrongdoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 If only you were as clever as you think you are. When you hear a burglar downstairs in your house dont forget to rush down with that limp stick of celery will you. The fact remains whether you think the force was disproportionate or not that he had every chance to comply and still didnt. Maybe the police train of thought is if he doesnt comply with a gun pointing at him then he wouldnt have complied anyway! If thats the case then would you take a knife to a gunfight? Leave Timeh alone ya big bully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 When its any of your business ill let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 In this instance behaviour which is repeated when it is known to be wrong. Ever thought the youth may have been suspected of committing serious crimes. Was there a warrant out for his arrests ? The point is we do not know. Yes we do know, the only reason he was stopped is because he didn't respond to an officer telling him to move. This is information that the police released openly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 When its any of your business ill let you know. Seriously. You better behave or I'll get my 8 year old sister on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 All had had to do was comply! He wasnt totally paralysed and no angel too by the sound of it. He knew the consequenses of the action to go in his bag with his hands rather than raising them. He could have been green with pink spots, the outcome would have been the same. He was told repeatedly to show them his hands and drop 'the gun'. If there was a gun (this hasn't yet been confirmed and witness accounts conflict with the cops' account on this) and it was in his waistband, wouldn't he have to reach in and pull it out in order to drop it? Have a little think about the physics involved in what the officer is telling the guy to do. ---------- Post added 25-09-2015 at 18:12 ---------- Sandra Bland killed herself. How on earth is that the police's fault. She hated police and refused to cooperate with them which, rightly or wrongly led to her arrest. Eric Garner was a tragedy, awful police work. But he was breaking the law it's a very rare occurrence. Freddie Grey, well we're still unsure of the outcome. Even these are still a drop in the ocean. Some of them are definitely the result of police wrongdoing but considering the number of crimes committed each day they don't show a significant pattern of wrongdoing They're just some examples of people who died in police custody, that's what you asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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