Bonzo77 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 There are a great deal of families like this. Proof please Ron! Or stop talking rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Proof please Ron! Or stop talking rubbish! Not rubbish, but I will stop talking. I have no proof, just experience and extrapolation from that experience. I can only speak from my experience - statistics and data is nearly always biased and so are the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 What a bizarre assertion. Data can't be biased, data just is. And personal experience is by definition limited. It can't be representative and should never be given weight over statistics or real data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardandec Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Not rubbish, but I will stop talking. I have no proof, just experience and extrapolation from that experience. I can only speak from my experience - statistics and data is nearly always biased and so are the media. On here if there's not a web page or news article dedicated to it then it didn't/doesn't happen there's none so blind as those who will not see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Are you in the habit of believing every rumour or assertion that you hear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardandec Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Are you in the habit of believing every rumour or assertion that you hear? No, but I don't walk round with my head in the clouds either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 On here if there's not a web page or news article dedicated to it then it didn't/doesn't happen there's none so blind as those who will not see. I agree - I can see, I can experience, I can know. I can also read a news article and see between the lines. This one was perfectly clear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 On here if there's not a web page or news article dedicated to it then it didn't/doesn't happen there's none so blind as those who will not see. Its a question of evidence to back up your assertion. If you dont have anything to back it up other than your own experience then its hard to persuade others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 What a bizarre assertion. Data can't be biased, data just is. And personal experience is by definition limited. It can't be representative and should never be given weight over statistics or real data. This is true - and perhaps absolute data just is - but the interpretation and presentation is nearly always biased. Data collected can be selective, hence a biased presentation of data. I am assessed every month by ONS I give data - who knows what I give is true or not? It is added to data. ---------- Post added 24-10-2015 at 21:49 ---------- Its a question of evidence to back up your assertion. If you dont have anything to back it up other than your own experience then its hard to persuade others. I recognise that - but it doesn't make it untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 This is true - and perhaps absolute data just is - but the interpretation and presentation is nearly always biased. Data collected can be selective, hence a biased presentation of data. I am assessed every month by ONS I give data - who knows what I give is true or not? It is added to data. ---------- Post added 24-10-2015 at 21:49 ---------- I recognise that - but it doesn't make it untrue. No but it makes it less reliable and thus less credible. Data isnt biased you just have to be able to interpret it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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