unbeliever Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Would you describe the police as free? Or the fire service? Because the funding model is no different. The police and fire service actually are free at the point of service. Unlike the NHS which is selectively free at the point of service. But no, I would never describe them as free. They're taxpayer funded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 IT'S NOT FREE. They get thousands per year out of me and almost everybody else working full time with any kind of advanced training. It's just a compulsory insurance scheme in which the better off subsidies the very poor. Both in the form of extra contributions and charges from which the poor are exempt. Pedantic bugger. I bet you are the life of the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 'Free' is the label given to it by the general public, which fits into the NHS principal 'that it be free at the point of delivery'. http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/about/Pages/nhscoreprinciples.aspx That's not free. And prescription charges are in violation even of this principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 The police and fire service actually are free at the point of service. Unlike the NHS which is selectively free at the point of service. But no, I would never describe them as free. They're taxpayer funded. examples please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pedantic bugger. I bet you are the life of the party. I'm not being pedantic. I'm paying thousand of pounds a year into the NHS which is now being very unhelpful to me when I need it. Describing something as "free" just because somebody else has paid for it is an ungrateful, deceitful lie and I'm not standing for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 There's competition between car insurance providers. The NHS has a monopoly. No it isn't. You can pay for private healthcare and cut out the NHS entirely. The moment you do so, I'm fairly sure you will appreciate the incredible value for money the NHS offers us. Someone on £25k a year will pay £1000 in tax for the NHS. Less than £80 a month. There is a private GP in Broomhill. He charges £55 for 15 mins. So you need more than 1 GP appointment per month, forget any surgery or tests here and you are over your £80 budget. I REALLY think you are absolutely wrong in your NHS views. Obviously if you are earning more or less than £25k then adjust accordingly. I'm sure you can work out the maths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 No it isn't. You can pay for private healthcare and cut out the NHS entirely. The moment you do so, I'm fairly sure you will appreciate the incredible value for money the NHS offers us. Someone on £25k a year will pay £1000 in tax for the NHS. Less than £80 a month. There is a private GP in Broomhill. He charges £55 for 15 mins. So you need more than 1 GP appointment per month, forget any surgery or tests here and you are over your £80 budget. I REALLY think you are absolutely wrong in your NHS views. No you can't. You can get private health insurance, but you still have to pay the NHS as well. That's a monopoly. The average contribution to the NHS is closer to £2000 and only a small minority of people need a GP once per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 No it isn't. You can pay for private healthcare and cut out the NHS entirely. The moment you do so, I'm fairly sure you will appreciate the incredible value for money the NHS offers us. Someone on £25k a year will pay £1000 in tax for the NHS. Less than £80 a month. There is a private GP in Broomhill. He charges £55 for 15 mins. So you need more than 1 GP appointment per month, forget any surgery or tests here and you are over your £80 budget. I REALLY think you are absolutely wrong in your NHS views. Obviously if you are earning more or less than £25k then adjust accordingly. I'm sure you can work out the maths Also worth noting that if you go down the insurance route your premium can go up and up if you're seriously ill or sick long term they can decide they won't insure you at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Also worth noting that if you go down the insurance route your premium can go up and up if you're seriously ill or sick long term they can decide they won't insure you at all. That's extreme. They can't even do that in the US any more. Every system has special insurance regulation when it come to healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's not free. And prescription charges are in violation even of this principle. Nonsense. Go to your doctor, it doesn't cost you a penny. Go to A&E, it doesn't cost you a penny. Have a life saving operation, it doesn't cost you a penny. At the point of delivery, it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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