Black Brick Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 If they set up a paid account that got rid of all the advertising I would sign up for £5/month. They should check the spelling, grammar and facts before releasing articles though as they are poor sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just a reminder that this thread is actually about the PAPER version of the Star. Theres another thread discussing the Star online. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennpickard Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) I looked at the most recent financials of Johnson and they have a precarious amount of debt. Many different regional newspapers come under the banner of Johnson. I think to survive L.T., the Star will need to be separated out from the Johnson Group and bought separately . The Sheffield Star has an advantage in that many of the newspapers in the Group are "Small time local" newspapers with a major challenges as a stand alone. In contrast, The Star per se has a potential 500K people in Sheffield and another 500K in and around south Yorkshire. If they got the right product/ingredients together for the Star, and drew 7.5% of this circulation potential, ie. 75,000 people, would investors be able to make things work when advertising revenue is added ? Edited November 23, 2018 by glennpickard missed one word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudds1 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 23 November 2018 at 7:59 PM, glennpickard said: I looked at the most recent financials of Johnson and they have a precarious amount of debt. Many different regional newspapers come under the banner of Johnson. I think to survive L.T., the Star will need to be separated out from the Johnson Group and bought separately . The Sheffield Star has an advantage in that many of the newspapers in the Group are "Small time local" newspapers with a major challenges as a stand alone. In contrast, The Star per se has a potential 500K people in Sheffield and another 500K in and around south Yorkshire. If they got the right product/ingredients together for the Star, and drew 7.5% of this circulation potential, ie. 75,000 people, would investors be able to make things work when advertising revenue is added ? The star when at York street used to print around 250k copies every day when it had 2 editions ,since moving to dinnington those figures dropped off . the main two reasons would be 1 the older generation has died off 2 most papers are now online which the younger generation now download if the star was to go back to being an evening paper that could help its struggling sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 10:46 AM, bendix said: It's like they're taking the **** now. They have just given up. Ben Green, hang your head in shame. I think we should also doff our cap to the “excellent” photograph that accompanies this hard hitting slice of journalism. Honestly, why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyko Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 11 hours ago, rudds1 said: The star when at York street used to print around 250k copies every day when it had 2 editions ,since moving to dinnington those figures dropped off . the main two reasons would be 1 the older generation has died off 2 most papers are now online which the younger generation now download if the star was to go back to being an evening paper that could help its struggling sales Incorrect The Star had a midday edition then printed a Chesterfield Barnsley Rotherham Doncaster then stopped for Afternoon edition before finally doing a late night final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffa1 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I've just been reading bits in the Star while waiting in a waiting room today, I couldn't believe how rubbish it is today. I checked the price of it and it said 83p, daylight robbery .I stopped getting the Star delivered many years ago because it wasn't worth its money but it's even worse now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaaalie Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) All of the good staff have slowly left, it's the same at all Johnston Press papers. The papers have become thinner with less content just to budget constraints, with more ads to make up the shortfall. They're essentially milking what they can out of their properties as they head toward extinction. Cities lucky enough to have a Reach (formerly Trinity Mirror) owned newspaper are faring slightly better, they still do a lot of nonsense viral content, but they seem to be keeping up standards a bit more - for now. Unfortunately, Yorkshire is very Johnston Press dominated. I'm not sure what the future of local news is, whether it's Facebook pages which report dubious stuff or independent sites, or if the BBC will have to take up more of it in the long-term, but certainly the lost of journalistic standards will be the big problem. Journalists, for all of their faults, do usually adhere to a code of ethics and check that information is reliable, which Facebook pages simply don't. Edited April 9, 2020 by kaaalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Luthor Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 hours ago, kaaalie said: All of the good staff have slowly left, it's the same at all Johnston Press papers. The papers have become thinner with less content just to budget constraints, with more ads to make up the shortfall. They're essentially milking what they can out of their properties as they head toward extinction. Cities lucky enough to have a Reach (formerly Trinity Mirror) owned newspaper are faring slightly better, they still do a lot of nonsense viral content, but they seem to be keeping up standards a bit more - for now. Unfortunately, Yorkshire is very Johnston Press dominated. I'm not sure what the future of local news is, whether it's Facebook pages which report dubious stuff or independent sites, or if the BBC will have to take up more of it in the long-term, but certainly the lost of journalistic standards will be the big problem. Journalists, for all of their faults, do usually adhere to a code of ethics and check that information is reliable, which Facebook pages simply don't. This is such a shame. They would do themselves a big favour if they gave people unlimited access to online articles during this crisis. People would be thankful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steved32 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lex Luthor said: This is such a shame. They would do themselves a big favour if they gave people unlimited access to online articles during this crisis. People would be thankful. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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