foxy lady Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) And I expect the people at the concert in Paris felt exactly the same. What point are you trying to make? Its pretty simple. There are bombs and terror attacks around the world, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are people killed around the world everyday by terrorists, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are terrorists around the world but 90% of them are Muslims. The safest way of taking a holiday is to take it where there are fewest Muslims. A country where you have to be Muslim to live there probably isn't a great choice nor is a country where the Muslims living there are trying to kill or drive out anyone who doesn't conform to the Muslim faith. You probably missed that Turkey has had a bomb blast every couple of weeks not just one over the last decade. http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2016/03/21/new-bomb-attack-paralyzes-life-turkey/82064738/ ANKARA — For the fifth time since October, another bomb has rocked one of Turkey's two biggest cities — Istanbul and Ankara — pushing the overall death toll in recent months to nearly 200 with hundreds more injured. It isn't rocket science you know. Edited March 24, 2016 by foxy lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samssong Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Its pretty simple. There are bombs and terror attacks around the world, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are people killed around the world everyday by terrorists, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are terrorists around the world but 90% of them are Muslims. The safest way of taking a holiday is to take it where there are fewest Muslims. A country where you have to be Muslim to live there probably isn't a great choice nor is a country where the Muslims living there are trying to kill or drive out anyone who doesn't conform to the Muslim faith. You probably missed that Turkey has had a bomb blast every couple of weeks not just one over the last decade. http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2016/03/21/new-bomb-attack-paralyzes-life-turkey/82064738/ ANKARA — For the fifth time since October, another bomb has rocked one of Turkey's two biggest cities — Istanbul and Ankara — pushing the overall death toll in recent months to nearly 200 with hundreds more injured. It isn't rocket science you know. Let us hope that we have left the EU before Germany forces through their wish that Turkey becomes a member .That will be the end of Europe and the planned expansion of the Muslim World will be nearer its final outcome . Get out of this so called Union now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Its pretty simple. There are bombs and terror attacks around the world, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are people killed around the world everyday by terrorists, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are terrorists around the world but 90% of them are Muslims. The safest way of taking a holiday is to take it where there are fewest Muslims. A country where you have to be Muslim to live there probably isn't a great choice nor is a country where the Muslims living there are trying to kill or drive out anyone who doesn't conform to the Muslim faith. You probably missed that Turkey has had a bomb blast every couple of weeks not just one over the last decade. http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2016/03/21/new-bomb-attack-paralyzes-life-turkey/82064738/ ANKARA — For the fifth time since October, another bomb has rocked one of Turkey's two biggest cities — Istanbul and Ankara — pushing the overall death toll in recent months to nearly 200 with hundreds more injured. It isn't rocket science you know. What made you think that I'd missed it? I wouldn't go on holiday to Ankara right now. You still think that you can assess risk across all countries by simply looking at the most common religion. A far too simplistic way to look at it IMO. ---------- Post added 24-03-2016 at 09:48 ---------- interestingly India is amongst the top 5 most dangerous places with regards to terrorism. http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239416.htm But I doubt you'd be arguing that all Hindu countries are too dangerous to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What made you think that I'd missed it? I wouldn't go on holiday to Ankara right now. You still think that you can assess risk across all countries by simply looking at the most common religion. A far too simplistic way to look at it IMO. ---------- Post added 24-03-2016 at 09:48 ---------- interestingly India is amongst the top 5 most dangerous places with regards to terrorism. http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239416.htm But I doubt you'd be arguing that all Hindu countries are too dangerous to visit. You probably missed the fact that India has a Muslim population roughly the same size as the one in Pakistan. But it's good of you to confirm the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That population is nothing to do with the communist/maoist terrorism that it suffers though is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 That population is nothing to do with the communist/maoist terrorism that it suffers though is it! In a country where 20% of the population is Muslim it probably has. But then a country with a population of a billion is always going to have more crime of every sort than one with a population of 60 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningman1 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What made you think that I'd missed it? I wouldn't go on holiday to Ankara right now. You still think that you can assess risk across all countries by simply looking at the most common religion. A far too simplistic way to look at it IMO. ---------- Post added 24-03-2016 at 09:48 ---------- interestingly India is amongst the top 5 most dangerous places with regards to terrorism. http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2014/239416.htm But I doubt you'd be arguing that all Hindu countries are too dangerous to visit. If you look at the terrorism in India, Islamic insurgency accounts for a vastly disproportionate number of attacks, especially in the Punjab. It may be a simplistic way to look at things, but there is no arguing that Muslim countries as a whole have a far, far greater problem with terrorism than non muslim countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Equato Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Ironic the list was compiled by the United States which had over 33,000 firearms deaths and 84,000 none-fatal injuries in 2015 (According to Wikepedia) admitted 21,000 were suicides but 11,000 murders doesn't seem to put anyone off going, not classed as terrorism but if you're lying in the street with a bullet in you from a deranged teenager with a grudge and an assault rifle, you don't think "Oh well, at least it wasn't a terrorist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Ironic the list was compiled by the United States which had over 33,000 firearms deaths and 84,000 none-fatal injuries in 2015 (According to Wikepedia) admitted 21,000 were suicides but 11,000 murders doesn't seem to put anyone off going, not classed as terrorism but if you're lying in the street with a bullet in you from a deranged teenager with a grudge and an assault rifle, you don't think "Oh well, at least it wasn't a terrorist". This is true, but as the majority of these are criminals killing other criminals there is not much of a problem for tourists. The problem with Muslim countries is the tourist is frequently the intended target. There was another example today where an Egyptair flight was hi-jacked. Fortunately there were no casualties but it is just a further demonstration of the absence of security in middle eastern airports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfox Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513434/Hijacked-passenger-plane-makes-emergency-landin-Cyprus.html Not sure this is the best example to support whatever point it is thats trying to be made (and this is the DM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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