onewheeldave Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 From http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/150804/Fury-at-vaccine-scandal Although they are not legally forced to have the vaccinations, without them they are not allowed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) From http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/150804/Fury-at-vaccine-scandal This is absolute heffer dust. ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 08:57 ---------- They aren't and can't be. Exactly so. I work for the NHS and have had the 'flu jab, hep B and several other jabs over the years. I was not forced to have any of them but had them to protect myself, my patients and those I love. Education is the key. Edited November 10, 2017 by Daven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC33 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 As a condition of their employment....... Meaning refuse them and you will lose your job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 As a condition of their employment....... Meaning refuse them and you will lose your job Not true. I know of staff members who have refused to have the jabs and are still working. I can only speak for those working in the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 The article says- Frontline health workers, social workers, prison officers and binmen have to be vaccinated against hepatitis B as a condition of their employment.......... ,,,,,, Although they are not legally forced to have the vaccinations, without them they are not allowed to work. Which sounds like ('front-line') workers can be employed without accepting the vaccine, but will not get any work. Which, if true, means they are effectively forced to comply. ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 09:42 ---------- Not true. I know of staff members who have refused to have the jabs and are still working. It may be that those staff weren't classed as 'frontline workers'. They may work in a dept that doesn't enforce. Whatever the reason, the fact that you know some staff who successfully refused, doesn't mean that other staff aren't forced (or even pressured) to comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) The article says- Which sounds like ('front-line') workers can be employed without accepting the vaccine, but will not get any work. Which, if true, means they are effectively forced to comply. ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 09:42 ---------- It may be that those staff weren't classed as 'frontline workers'. They may work in a dept that doesn't enforce. Whatever the reason, the fact that you know some staff who successfully refused, doesn't mean that other staff aren't forced (or even pressured) to comply. No one is 'forced or pressured to comply'. This isn't Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's Edited November 10, 2017 by Daven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 No one is 'forced or pressured to comply'. This isn't Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's No-ones mentioned Nazi Germany except you. According to: Appendix 1: Immunisation Required per NHS Employee Category from- http://www.southernhealth.nhs.uk/_resources/assets/inline/full/0/73504.pdf(page 14) NHS employees (of southernhealth) who are required to have Hep B (plus several other vaccinations), include- Category 1 Staff involved in direct patient care eg doctors, nurses, healthcare support workers, occupational therapists, physiotherapists, psychology staff, radiographers, chiropodists, pharmacists, dieticians, plaster technicians, audiology staff. Students and trainees of these disciplines with patients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 No-ones mentioned Nazi Germany except you. According to: Appendix 1: Immunisation Required per NHS Employee Category from- http://www.southernhealth.nhs.uk/_resources/assets/inline/full/0/73504.pdf(page 14) NHS employees (of southernhealth) who are required to have Hep B (plus several other vaccinations), include- Category 1 Staff involved in direct patient care eg doctors, nurses, healthcare support workers, occupational therapists, physiotherapists, psychology staff, radiographers, chiropodists, pharmacists, dieticians, plaster technicians, audiology staff. Students and trainees of these disciplines with patients You may want to look at para 5:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 You may want to look at para 5:10 Of which page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Of which page? Page 12 under the heading 'Staff Declining' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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