runningman1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Can anyone provide an unbiased link that shows me the changes in the contracts proposed and how the junior doctors will be impacted by them. I am asking for facts and figures. I can't really find anything concrete and substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Underlined: obviously sarcasm bold: How did you come to that conclusion? ---------- Post added 06-01-2016 at 02:42 ---------- er foreign staff? After all, 25% of the NHS is propped up with foreign staff. We can do a simple exchange. All the ones holding banners threatening to go and work abroad, can do just that, and we can take people who want to work here in our amazing NHS Would you accept a big pay cut willingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lines Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Can anyone provide an unbiased link that shows me the changes in the contracts proposed and how the junior doctors will be impacted by them. I am asking for facts and figures. I can't really find anything concrete and substantial. Because the talks are forever evolving... Here's quite a good article from two days ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Because the talks are forever evolving... Here's quite a good article from two days ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html I was reading yesterday, that a first year junior doctor, after six years at medical school, would earn £10 an hour, in the third year they would earn £18 an hour. £10 an hour is diabolical, I know unskilled workers earning more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Would you accept a big pay cut willingly? Red Herring JFK, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Red Herring JFK, I think. Have a read of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html You have to also take into account the amount of bad blood that exists between the junior doctors and the DoH, when the DoH tried to force through the first set of proposals that would have cut many junior doctors pay to a level not seen since the early 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Have a read of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html You have to also take into account the amount of bad blood that exists between the junior doctors and the DoH, when the DoH tried to force through the first set of proposals that would have cut many junior doctors pay to a level not seen since the early 21st century. That doesn't alter the fact that your question was loaded (and nothing to do with what I said). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLAR Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd sack the lot of them who strike. Good plan. Then we could employ some second division doctors. I'm amazed that more people don't get annoyed by this sort of attitude. When we have bankers, or lawyers holding the country to ransom, we get told that we have to pay top wages to get the best? When doctors, or teachers dare to complain about wages and conditions of service, they are told to get on with it and stop moaning. I'd like to live in a country with first division doctors and teachers. I couldn't care less how good the bankers are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That doesn't alter the fact that your question was loaded (and nothing to do with what I said). On this thread you suggested that we should sack all the junior doctors for striking, so it does seem a pertinent question as to whether or not you'd willingly accept a drop in pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Be awesome if they all go sacked, just the sort of enlightened Sheffield Forum solution I've come to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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