Solomon1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 And there is the nub of the argument, because to everyone else who has a job with shifts, 9pm on a Saturday IS the same as 9am on a Tuesday Which is how Hunt is pedalling his crap Just like a heart attack at 9pm on a Saturday IS the same as a heart attack at 9am on a Tuesday, until you get to a hospital where there is a third rate service at 9pm on Saturday night And Hunt's way is going to make Everything SO much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Again, the argument is a little too subtle for you!!!! Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't be working 9pm on Saturday, they are talking about the amount that people get paid for working those times! If it's part of the working week they should get the same as any other day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If it's part of the working week they should get the same as any other day of the week Doctors need to rest They are NOT slaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If it's part of the working week they should get the same as any other day of the week. There are lots of different professions and trades that get paid different rates for working at different times. For example, would you pay the same rate for a plumber or a lawyer on 9pm on a Saturday night then you would on a 9am on Tuesday morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 For example, would you pay the same rate for a plumber or a lawyer on 9pm on a Saturday night then you would on a 9am on Tuesday morning? Exactly The government feels it OWNS docs SO glad they're fighting back! Stick it to the man people! Hunt deserves EVERYTHING headed his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Again, the argument is a little too subtle for you!!!! Nobody is arguing that they shouldn't be working 9pm on Saturday, they are talking about the amount that people get paid for working those times! It's not subtle at all, in fact I explained it very clearly. Most people will come to the conclusion that this is a dispute centred on wanting to be paid more for working the fewer hours that doctors keep saying thry should be working. It's a simple pay dispute, no different from miners or the police, except that miners were always on strike and the police aren't allowed to strike. It's doctors that have moaned about working hours since God was a lad, even though it's their macho culture that causes it. Now that a government is trying to sort something out they don't like the implications. It's human nature, I don't blame them individually in the slightest, but as a group the issue needs tackling. It would be a good idea if doctors weren't allowed to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It would be a good idea if doctors weren't allowed to strike Right So how about you Should YOU be allowed to strike mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Doctors need to rest They are NOT slaves 5 days on 2 off on a Rota system,surely no one's asking them to work 7 days a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There are lots of different professions and trades that get paid different rates for working at different times. For example, would you pay the same rate for a plumber or a lawyer on 9pm on a Saturday night then you would on a 9am on Tuesday morning? Your analogy is from the schoolyard. Are plumbers an essential service with no competition? No. Doctors are essential and there is no choice of service. Or are you actually saying that doctors are like plumbers? ---------- Post added 15-01-2016 at 13:54 ---------- Right So how about you Should YOU be allowed to strike mate? I work longer hours than doctors but I've never felt the need to withhold my services even though they aren't essential. Doctors shouldn't be allowed to go on strike if they really are an essential service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's not subtle at all, in fact I explained it very clearly. If that's the case why did you suggest that junior doctors didn't want to work shifts? It's a simple pay dispute, no different from miners or the police, except that miners were always on strike and the police aren't allowed to strike. It's doctors that have moaned about working hours since God was a lad. Now that a government is trying to sort something out they don't like the implications. It's human nature, I don't blame them individually in the slightest, but as a group the issue needs tackling. It would be a good idea if doctors weren't allowed to strike. It's a lot different from the miners because the miners were striking over the closure of the pits. With the junior doctors the work is there, they just want to be able to work same amount of hours for at the same amount of pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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