Eric Arthur Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The doctors you refer to from GP surgeries who went on strike are by definition Junior Doctors. Doctors who are not either GP's or consultants. The term Junior Doctor is misleading to many, it is every doctor from 1st day starting work to last day before gaining full GP / consultant status, for many this is 10+ yrs of work. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) You're thanking Scrappy for proving you wrong? ---------- Post added 20-01-2016 at 08:51 ---------- Some junior doctors are GP's This was your claim. The one that's wrong. Just in case you'd conveniently forgotten. ---------- Post added 20-01-2016 at 08:52 ---------- Not every day. Few doctors do for that matter but that's incidental. And the entire reason you were making that claim was because you previously claimed that "few doctors deal with life or death situations every day". To which I suggested you were confusing junior doctors with GPs. The junior doctors working in hospitals (which is primarily what the striking is all about, not about junior doctors doing rotations in a GP surgery) deal with life and death situations really quite regularly, although exactly how often will depend on which rotation they're on. Edited January 20, 2016 by Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 None of them are part of the UK though Smithy We don't need Trident to defend the Falklands. Our Polaris deterrent did nothing to prevent invasion in 1982. I recall reading that in fact it helped us regain them though. Mrs T basically told the french prime minister (or president) that if he did not hand over certain codes that allowed us to disable Argentine missiles we would be in a position of having to use our weapons of last resort. The codes were handed over. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about a bit of redistribution in the pay scale. Senior doctors are extremely well paid. We'll take some of their pay and give it to the juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about a bit of redistribution in the pay scale. Senior doctors are extremely well paid. We'll take some of their pay and give it to the juniors. But it's not to do with pay.. all about patient safety... apparantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about a bit of redistribution in the pay scale. Senior doctors are extremely well paid. We'll take some of their pay and give it to the juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalharry Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about a bit of redistribution in the pay scale. Senior doctors are extremely well paid. We'll take some of their pay and give it to the juniors. this is not such a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 How about a bit of redistribution in the pay scale. Senior doctors are extremely well paid. We'll take some of their pay and give it to the juniors. Why should the NHS's staff have to fund the Conservative government's plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Why should the NHS's staff have to fund the Conservative government's plans? The taxpayers are funding both. Nobody is funding anybody's "plans". If you want to give junior doctors a better deal, the money has to come from somewhere. If the doctors' pay scale is currently very steeply sloped it seems to me that it could be adjusted without a net increase in the spending of taxpayers' money. Consultants are rather well paid http://www.bma.org.uk/support-at-work/pay-fees-allowances/pay-scales/consultants-pay-england They are working for the state after all and as such will be motivated by a desire to serve the community rather then feather their own nests. Surely such people would be more than happy to share their great wealth with their hard done by junior colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The taxpayers are funding both. Nobody is funding anybody's "plans". If you want to give junior doctors a better deal, the money has to come from somewhere. If the doctors' pay scale is currently very steeply sloped it seems to me that it could be adjusted without a net increase in the spending of taxpayers' money. Consultants are rather well paid http://www.bma.org.uk/support-at-work/pay-fees-allowances/pay-scales/consultants-pay-england They are working for the state after all and as such will be motivated by a desire to serve the community rather then feather their own nests. Surely such people would be more than happy to share their great wealth with their hard done by junior colleagues. Amongst other things, the junior doctors aren't striking for a better deal, they're striking to maintain their current levels of pay!!!!!!!! I also wouldn't describe receiving a salary as feathering a nest, but then envy can often cloud people's judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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