I1L2T3 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 It doesn't stop everyone that enjoys free training and a wage when they bond themselves to the armed forces, and it wouldn't stop people joining the medical profession. ---------- Post added 13-02-2016 at 19:36 ---------- Had the BMA not opposed the idea there would be more money to pay doctors, talk about cutting off their nose to spite their face. The BMA is union and unions are opposed to anything the conservatives do or want to do. The NHS is not the armed forces. Can't believe people have got so utterly desperate as to start suggesting this kind of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The NHS is not the armed forces. Can't believe people have got so utterly desperate as to start suggesting this kind of rubbish. Rubbish to you but still a way to solve the problems faced by the NHS. How many NHS staff start out with the intention of only working for the NHS for a few months, most I would guess are looking for a life long career and would welcome free training and wage from day one, the ones that intend to move country once trained won't join and that would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Rubbish to you but still a way to solve the problems faced by the NHS. How many NHS staff start out with the intention of only working for the NHS for a few months, most I would guess are looking for a life long career and would welcome free training and wage from day one, the ones that intend to move country once trained won't join and that would be a good thing. That rather depends on the Tories not butchering the NHS any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 That rather depends on the Tories not butchering the NHS any further The word you was looking for is improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The NHS is not the armed forces. Can't believe people have got so utterly desperate as to start suggesting this kind of rubbish. It isnt rubbish, but they do seem to forget it has implications because it changes the whole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) This is why we have to get workers from abroad. The Brits don't want work. We should get some doctors from Poland, they'll work for less and we don't have to train them. More than 70% of doctors struck off in Britain are trained abroad. Perhaps UK trained doctors are better? The Daily Mail is not my preferred source for information. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3362362/Figures-reveal-doctors-trained-abroad-make-three-quarters-struck-Britain-despite-promises-overhaul-competency-exams-wake-growing-alarm-patient-safety.html#ixzz40582V71G Edited February 13, 2016 by El Cid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFrank Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 More than 70% of doctors struck off in Britain are trained abroad. Perhaps UK trained doctors are better? The Daily Mail i not my preferred source for information. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3362362/Figures-reveal-doctors-trained-abroad-make-three-quarters-struck-Britain-despite-promises-overhaul-competency-exams-wake-growing-alarm-patient-safety.html#ixzz40582V71G English bricklayers are better than none uk trained. I wonder how many doctors have taken advantage of low paid workers when it suited them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Let's be honest the dispute is about money. The doctors try to disguise this by claiming they're saving the NHS or for safety reasons.. They will have to get used to accepting the things we all have to... they are not special cases.. Ofc they are a special case because they have public support and they have a strong bargaining position. The NHS cant function without them, they are intelligent, highly skilled and those skills will be transferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just Googled that and can't find anything. Do you have a link? I can find some info where Doctors said they weren't in favour of the solution proposed by the government but had no specific issue with the concept. Their argument was that UK hospitals are not equipped to make any payments or billing at any point and the costs involved with setting this up would wipe out any costs recovered from non-EU visitors. This has NEVER been put to a vote or anything other than a suggestion, so you've just done what should become known as a 'Jeremy Hunt', where you twist facts to make the doctors and BMA look bad. How surprising. Ye Gods, it's not rocket science... We have all these NHS managers pushing budgets about, surely it's not beyond the wit of man to come up with something? Other countries don't seem to have a problem. If it costs more than it saves then it suggests some government civil servant/department is getting paid too much. It doesn't seem to stop them constantly meddling at great cost with benefits etc. Sorry, but the sums just don't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The word you was looking for is improve. er, no it's not. Butchering is just fine. You'll be crying when you get forced to take out medical compulsory insurance but end up having to pay to have your lips surgically removed from Hunt's backside. ---------- Post added 13-02-2016 at 21:53 ---------- It isnt rubbish, but they do seem to forget it has implications because it changes the whole package. It is rubbish to suggest financially bonding civilians to the state, especially bonding them to work in an organisation that the government will actively seek to dismantle. On top of 5 years of student debt too. Lunacy. A total non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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