Is it illegal for a British citizen living in uk to support ISIS?

[Ghostrider]

I don't understand your question.

 

Its illegal to incite racial hatred and violence.

So when you see muslims demonstrating, and they are advocating beheading non muslims etc, surely that is incitement, and therefore illegal.

But you hardly ever hear of any arrests being made, apart from the high profile ones. The ones burning British flags, poppys etc, what about them ?

[Katie Event]

Its illegal to incite racial hatred and violence.

So when you see muslims demonstrating, and they are advocating beheading non muslims etc, surely that is incitement, and therefore illegal.

But you hardly ever hear of any arrests being made, apart from the high profile ones. The ones burning British flags, poppys etc, what about them ?

 

I don't know of incidents involving burning poppies (although I haven't looked) but doing so would be insensitive and offensive to many, but I don't think it could be described as racist.

 

I've not heard of " muslims demonstrating, and they are advocating beheading non muslims etc" in this country - do you have any links?

[999tigger]

Its illegal to incite racial hatred and violence.

So when you see muslims demonstrating, and they are advocating beheading non muslims etc, surely that is incitement, and therefore illegal.

But you hardly ever hear of any arrests being made, apart from the high profile ones. The ones burning British flags, poppys etc, what about them ?

 

Thats not racial hatred though.

 

The offence of relgious hatred comes under Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 as i pointed out. It includes an ammendment to the Public Order Act 86

 

Section 29B:

 

(1) A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred.

[Ghostrider]

I don't know of incidents involving burning poppies (although I haven't looked) but doing so would be insensitive and offensive to many, but I don't think it could be described as racist.

 

I've not heard of " muslims demonstrating, and they are advocating beheading non muslims etc" in this country - do you have any links?

 

Loads of them if you google it..

Here is just one.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-376088/London-protesters-Behead-insult-prophet.html

[Dubaidani13]

tonights TV programe on IS sympathisers in the uk should be interesting CH 4 9pm IsIs women? i am guessing these might be liable to arrest or should be after its shown.

[999tigger]

Loads of them if you google it..

Here is just one.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-376088/London-protesters-Behead-insult-prophet.html

 

Its not racial hatred though is it as it doesnt designate a race.

[Ghostrider]

Its not racial hatred though is it as it doesnt designate a race.

 

Oh for Gods sake, they mean EVERY race apart from themselves...

And threatening to cut peoples heads off is definately illegal..

[999tigger]

Oh for Gods sake, they mean EVERY race apart from themselves...

And threatening to cut peoples heads off is definately illegal..

 

Already pointed out its religious hatred, but you keep on with the racial hatred and fail to appreciate the difference. They have different criteria. It was a placard, they would have to shiow it was a direct and realistic threat.

 

Incitement to religious hatred

 

A religious hatred offence has been created by Parliament, and came into force on 1 October 2007. However, this law is very different from the race hate law already on the statute books in that it only covers threatening words or behaviour (not insults or abuse) and only covers such words or behaviour that is intended to stir up religious hatred (not that likely to stir hatred).

 

So abusive or insulting behaviour intended to stir up religious hatred is not an offence under the legislation, nor are threatening words likely to stir up religious hatred.

 

There is a freedom of expression defence enshrined in the new law that means it cannot be used to prohibit or restrict discussion, criticism, antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of a religion or its beliefs or practices.

 

So it will be more difficult to prosecute for inciting religious hatred as opposed to racial hatred (for which the standard is already properly high).

 

Prosecutions for this offence require the consent of the Attorney General and will be dealt with under the same arrangements as offences of inciting racial hatred.

[Ghostrider]

You know what - I dont care if its religious or racial hatred.

The upshot is, they are in the streets of this country, threatening to behead people.

 

Am I the only one here who sees this as a problem

[999tigger]

You know what - I dont care if its religious or racial hatred.

The upshot is, they are in the streets of this country, threatening to behead people.

 

Am I the only one here who sees this as a problem

 

It was a placard

calling for anyone who insults the prophet Mohammed to be beheaded have been waved during an angry protest outside the Danish Embassy in London.

 

Its from 2006. Perhaps the police looked at it an decided it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular or the CPS didnt think it serious enough to warrant prosecution as it would be difficult to prove the whole nation felt threatened.