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[lindylou53]

Just like when Labour removed the student grant and replaced it with a loan system for higher education?

 

The best way forward for any nurse (or teacher as they also get a bursary unless I am mistaken) undergoing training that requires mandatory time in the workplace is for the employer to pay for them to be there in the form of a salary with the course fees being paid up front from a loan (or in exceptional circumstances) via a scholarship. In that way it creates a level playing field for people to select and advance their career path.

 

As the bursary is ~£6.5k, actually being paid for the time working instead would cause them to be better off.

 

I thought the last thing we were hearing is how low the percentage is of newly trained nurses that do the job for more than three years is; you could argue that replacing the bursary with a loan will scare people away from wanting to be nurses (university loans has proved this to be false) or having a loan system would encourage people to do the job longer to pay the loan back which works better for the NHS by stemming the flow of nurses leaving the industry.

Surely the employer would be the NHS so where would they find the money to pay these salaries?

[Ms Macbeth]

Ive had an email telling me that the petition will be debated on January 11th.

 

I've supported this petition for several reasons similar to siwid above. Many nursing students are older than the majority of university students; some have worked in more basic caring jobs and have already demonstrated the necessary attributes; some already have families to support. Even when qualified, nurses don't earn fantastic salaries unless they go into management, which can effectively remove them from direct patient care, so many really good nurses don't make that move.

Edited December 2, 2015 by Ms Macbeth

[999tigger]

Ive had an email telling me that the petition will be debated on January 11th.

 

I've supported this petition for several reasons similar to siwid above. Many nursing students are older than the majority of university students; some have worked in more basic caring jobs and have already demonstrated the necessary attributes; some already have families to support. Even when qualified, nurses don't earn fantastic salaries unless they go into management, which can effectively remove them from direct patient care, so many really good nurses don't make that move.

 

Great news and a really good example of democracy in action. Im impressed with the speed it reached its target.

[Daven]

Parliament is being forced to discuss this following a wonderful response to the online vote.

I'm making no excuses for bumping this thread up so the subject can still be discussed and kept in the forefront of everyone's mind.

Regards.

[PeteMorris]

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/113491

[Daven]

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/health/student-nurses-bursary-campaign-march/

 

Student nurses bursaries are to be scrapped - many people considering a career in nursing will not be able to afford to do their training which will leave them with debt.- particularly more mature people who have families.

Nurse recruitment is already in crisis and this will make matters much worse.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Daven

[sutty27]

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/health/student-nurses-bursary-campaign-march/

 

Student nurses bursaries are to be scrapped - many people considering a career in nursing will not be able to afford to do their training which will leave them with debt.

Nurse recruitment is already in crisis and this will make matters much worse.

 

Gove addressed this on sky , he said that the government couldn't afford to train the number of nursed they need because of the bursaries, and that scrapping them would allow them to train more nurses instead of having to rely on foreign nurses. There are more people wanting to train as nursed than there are training places so not sure how they conclude that nurse recruitment is already in crisis.

[Daven]

There WERE more people wanting to train as nurses than there were places for them before the bursary was scrapped.

The fact of the matter is that now many many of those suitable people won't be able to afford to fund themselves through Uni for 3 years.

[sutty27]

There WERE more people wanting to train as nurses than there were places for them before the bursary was scrapped.

The fact of the matter is that now many many of those suitable people won't be able to afford to fund themselves through Uni for 3 years.

 

Everyone thought the same about uni fees but student numbers went up.

[Daven]

Everyone thought the same about uni fees but student numbers went up.

 

But to be fair - the vast majority of regular Uni places are taken by 18 year olds. Nursing is different - many of those who want to train as a nurse are more mature people often with families. They will be prevented from doing their training because of the cost and that is a crying shame as more mature people come into the job with experience of life which can't be taught in a classroom and is a vital part of being a good nurse.