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Organ Donor Regulations in Wales - Rest of UK?


If this policy became UK-wide...  

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  1. 1. If this policy became UK-wide...

    • If you're already registered, would you NOT "Opt Out"
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    • If you're already registered, would you "Opt Out"
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    • If you're not already registered, would you NOT "Opt Out"
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    • If you're not already registered, would you "Opt Out"
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Of course there haven't been any scandals covered up in he past have there? Liverpool care pathway, mid Staffs are the two that spring to mind oh and the Alderhay hospital scandal, that was to do with taking organs without permission, I believe Guys and St Thomas's in London did something similar. Might be a bit too tempting for cash strapped hospitals with a few body parts going spare, we will see.

 

Did they sell organs?

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Did they sell organs?

 

No but they weren't all crying about being massively overspent then but it does show what some people in positions of power/responsibility can get up to when they don't expect to get found out.

 

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Oh and haven't the NHS been selling people's private medical details to any Tom Dick and Harry leading to companies ringing patients with 'tailored' products relevant to whatever their affliction may be (Data protection act, what's that?).

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The organ donation rules have changed in Wales today - they have now moved to an "Opt-Out" system, so if you don't want to be an organ donor, you have to register that wish, instead of registering a donor card....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-34964382

 

Will this system be adopted in the rest of the country in a bid to increase organ donation??

 

No brainer

 

And LONG overdue :nod:

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No but they weren't all crying about being massively overspent then but it does show what some people in positions of power/responsibility can get up to when they don't expect to get found out.

 

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Oh and haven't the NHS been selling people's private medical details to any Tom Dick and Harry leading to companies ringing patients with 'tailored' products relevant to whatever their affliction may be (Data protection act, what's that?).

 

Actually the hospitals did exchange tissue for "donations", and the tissue wasn't just used for research some of it was used in the manufacture of drugs. It was an utter disgrace, but something that the lessons has been learned from.

 

This is completely different from someone actually donating organs to someone else. When this happens there is a clear record of what's happened, it would be impossible to sweep a donation under the carpet.

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As I'm now living in Wales this law change applies to me.

There has been lots of literature through the door advertising the changes for a number of months now.

I've chosen to ignore them, and do nothing....in effect giving my consent.

I've also made sure my family know my wishes, as under the new rules they will still be asked for permission.

 

The problem as I see it is anyone deemed to have consented in this way MUST let their family know their wishes otherwise the family will have a difficult decision to make. We all know that people are just lazy...and perhaps intended to opt out but never got around to it.

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Did they sell organs?

 

Not sure about that, but the Welsh were the first to start charging for plastic bags weren't they? Therefore, anyone buying a new liver or whatever will be faced with the extra 5p on top of it.

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I think not offering another person the chance of life when you lose nothing is possibly one of the most selfish things a person can do. It should be opt out across the UK.

 

I agree. I've been on the register for years and my family know I'm in favour. If an opt out system is introduced, then those who do not wish to have their organs removed still have the choice.

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I sincerely hope not. My body is mine to choose what to do with
It still will be

- not for the Govt to assume it's something that they can just take unless I object.

 

For the record - I am a donor but if this comes in in the UK I won't be for very long after.

 

Your options of choice will still be the same. The only difference is that people would have to make an effort if you wanted to not help others rather than make an effort if they wanted to help others.

It's not like the government are taking organs as a tax and giving them to the treasury, hospitals are taking them and trying to save other lives with them.

 

After recently being made aware of the complexities of organ donorship and transplantation, I'm more for this than ever before.

 

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Strongly oppose this measure. Your body is your body.
That won't change.

 

This shifts the assumption to the state having first dibs on your organs and is quite simply wrong. The act of donation should be a positive one. There should be increased efforts to get people to opt in.

 

How will they have "first dibs"? The choices you have will still be the same, the choice is yours and you still get "first dibs".

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