Manlinose Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) So a bit like Jimmy Savile in that respect. What a peculiar comment ---------- Post added 27-02-2016 at 23:21 ---------- Well at least we can all agree that Corbyn will never be elected as PM of this Country. That leaves the Conservatives with an open goal at the next election. Will that make the next Tory PM lucky. Angel1. I think most sensible observers would agree with your first sentence (even most sensible labour party supporters - although many would say that is an oxymoron) And yes, of course the next leader of the conservative party will be lucky if Mr Corbyn is still leader of the labour party at the next general election Edited February 27, 2016 by Manlinose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The Spectator is practically the Conservatives official news letter. I would have thought they'd have been all for Corbyn because Labour are unelectable under him. Beg your pardon, I meant the New Statesman. Shadow cabinet members complain that their meetings lack structure, discipline and direction. “He just lets people talk, but it often meanders pointlessly. If there’s a row it ends up in the media but more often the discussion just wanders off,” one said. Another source added: “He sits in the chairman’s seat but he doesn’t chair the meeting, he doesn’t comment, or answer questions or sum up.” Smaller meetings get even worse reviews, with Mr Corbyn, 66, resting his chin in his hand while others talk. “He sits head slumped,” allowing others to take the lead, an insider said. “A few months ago he would sit forward and do the talking. Now he spends a lot of time avoiding conflict.” Seumas Milne, his communications director, sometimes answers questions on the leader’s behalf, on one occasion prompting a rebuke from Tom Watson, the deputy leader. Mr Milne’s influence prompts consternation. At a recent meeting, the concern of the hard-left former Guardian comment editor was said to be not the party’s stance on the EU referendum or May’s elections, but annoyance at how the New Statesman was covering the Corbyn leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Smith Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 Yeah OK. Cameron WAS the luckiest politician ever...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelFargate Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 His luck just ran out. He has his own hubris to blame for this. Referendums are always risky. The guiding principle of governments should be to never hold one unless you can be absolutely sure of the result. He rode his luck with the Scottish referendum and obviously thought that he could repeat the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 His luck just ran out. He has his own hubris to blame for this. Referendums are always risky. The guiding principle of governments should be to never hold one unless you can be absolutely sure of the result. He rode his luck with the Scottish referendum and obviously thought that he could repeat the trick. Or did his luck run out? He said he was going to step aside before the next election. He will. One thing is for certain when it comes to ex-Prime Ministers. They get rich very quickly when they stop doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Didn't have a principled bone in his body. Always looking for a compromise to keep everyone happy. His views were always unknown, everything was negotiable whatever the subject. Then bluster and bully. And when the above didn't work try to scare the public into not voting for the other side. He was finally hoisted on his own petard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelFargate Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Or did his luck run out? He said he was going to step aside before the next election. He will. One thing is for certain when it comes to ex-Prime Ministers. They get rich very quickly when they stop doing it. He will for ever more be labelled as the PM who took the UK out of the EU, through a catastrophic mistake rather than by design. This is what he will be most remembered for. What a legacy. All the money he will undoubtedly earn after he leaves office will not wipe this stain away. Edited June 24, 2016 by nikki-red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 It's as I said previously. He dug himself in to the mire by spinning one after another catastrophe if we exited, instead of just saying, Personally I think we are better of remaining in the EU, but either way I will respect the views of the British electorate. That way he would not have lost face and could have kept on as Prime minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 He will for ever more be labelled as the PM who took the UK out of the EU, through a catastrophic mistake rather than by design. This is what he will be most remembered for. What a legacy. All the money he will undoubtedly earn after he leaves office will not wipe this stain away. You probably missed the fact that the majority of voters actually voted to come out of the EU. Cameron will be remembered as the Prime Minister who allowed us to escape. None of the others would let us have that choice. That's not a bad legacy and hardly a stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Or did his luck run out? He said he was going to step aside before the next election. He will. One thing is for certain when it comes to ex-Prime Ministers. They get rich very quickly when they stop doing it. He will for ever more be labelled as the PM who took the UK out of the EU, through a catastrophic mistake rather than by design. This is what he will be most remembered for. What a legacy. All the money he will undoubtedly earn after he leaves office will not wipe this stain away. .......you should count yourself lucky that we have managed to extricate ourselves from the black hole of the EU!.... a cash devouring non wealth producing juggernaut of egocentric failed politicians!........jog on. Edited June 24, 2016 by nikki-red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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