New 20mph speed limits

[Bargepole23]

22 hours ago, Resident said:

Can't have your cake and eat it. 

You can't Complain about people LEGALLY parking on a road without restrictions then moan when the council listens and puts in restrictions.  Clearly the residents used a 'safety' angle when registering complaints hence the council decision to double yellow it. If it's not safe for commuters to park there then it's not safe for residents.

All true, although pretty much every house on there has more than enough driveway space to fit multiple cars on.

[Baron99]

SCC are no longer going to install actual speed humps as they cost too much money. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60288668

 

Additionally, there appears to be misleading claims by a SCC planner as to who pays for such schemes?   

 

"In a letter to residents, transport planner Lisa Blakemore said the council could "no longer afford such schemes".

The government said the council claim was "misleading" as its funding came via a Private Finance Initiative (PFI). "

 

It also turns out that the police don't enforce the 20mph areas anyway.  

 

" In response to a Freedom of Information request in 2019, South Yorkshire Police said it would not enforce 20mph speed zones and confirmed no drivers had been prosecuted for exceeding those limits." 

Edited February 8, 2022 by Baron99

[Planner1]

8 hours ago, Baron99 said:

SCC are no longer going to install actual speed humps as they cost too much money. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60288668

 

Additionally, there appears to be misleading claims by a SCC planner as to who pays for such schemes?   

 

"In a letter to residents, transport planner Lisa Blakemore said the council could "no longer afford such schemes".

The government said the council claim was "misleading" as its funding came via a Private Finance Initiative (PFI). "

 

It also turns out that the police don't enforce the 20mph areas anyway.  

 

" In response to a Freedom of Information request in 2019, South Yorkshire Police said it would not enforce 20mph speed zones and confirmed no drivers had been prosecuted for exceeding those limits." 

The claims aren’t misleading at all.

 

The government spokesperson is correct in saying that SCC’s highway maintenance funding comes via the PFI deal.

 

However, funding for new infrastructure spending, like a new 20mph zone with physical features like humps etc, normally comes from government grant. Those schemes are expensive, so the Council can only do limited numbers of them. The signs and roadmarkings only schemes are much cheaper.

 

It isn’t exactly a new revelation that the Police don’t enforce the 20 zones. They have always held the opinion that 20 zones should be self enforcing ie they should have physical features like humps etc that make drivers slow down. Also it is only very recently that enforcement equipment has become available that is approved for use in 20 zones.

 

The Council are well aware that the Police won’t enforce the 20 zones. The Council officers have briefed the Councillors that the signs and road markings only 20 zones are not generally effective in reducing vehicle speeds and therefore don’t generally reduce casualties. But the Councillors want to roll them out across the city because people ask for them.