Would you join the British Armed Forces?

[Solomon1]

I bet you wouldn't in fact I'd suggest couldnt - you'd be a basket and dead in week if you went into a warzone with that attitude

 

Are you trying to 'Man shame' me

 

Into using a different word for murder?

 

Let me make this completely clear to you then

 

I COULD kill a man, likely with my bare hands

 

But I wouldn't dress it up as anything other than

 

MURDER

 

Whether I was attacked on the street

 

Or under the sanction of war

 

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Ok for that you get a complimentary upgrade from belter to complete and utter throbber

 

Whatever dude

 

You're the one that signed up

[tinfoilhat]

Are you trying to 'Man shame' me

 

Into using a different word for murder?

 

Let me make this completely clear to you then

 

I COULD kill a man, likely with my bare hands

 

But I wouldn't dress it up as anything other than

 

MURDER

 

Whether I was attacked on the street

 

Or under the sanction of war

 

I'm suggesting you've a lot of issues, lack of knowledge about the subject matter, and not a great grasp of the use of English.

 

And a dodgy caps lock on your keyboard. I'd get that looked at amongst other things.

[Quik]

So what do you do for a living soloman? You hate what we did/do clearly, whats your line of work?

[JFKvsNixon]

I prefer Wiktionary's first definition, given already:

 

Murder: "An act of deliberate killing of another being, especially a human"

 

So you're basing an entire point of view on a such narrow definition! It's not often that I am surprised by the ignorance shown here on SF but you seem to have surpassed most, a big well done to you!

 

Let's head on back to the real world for a bit, if you can. That definition is far too vague to be basing any opinion that was worth listening to on, for example it doesn't take any motivation into account.

 

Fine, if you're happy to cherry pick the definitions to suit your needs and ignore all other inputs on the definition of what a murder.

[Solomon1]

I'm suggesting you've a lot of issues, lack of knowledge about the subject matter, and not a great grasp of the use of English

 

How very dare you!

 

Was top of my class at the Grammar School I'll have thee know!

 

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So what do you do for a living soloman? You hate what we did/do clearly, whats your line of work?

 

To clarify

 

I hate that the military kills people, yes

 

I have nothing against you personally

 

I work in the service industry

[onewheeldave]

I bet you wouldn't in fact I'd suggest couldnt - you'd be a basket and dead in week if you went into a warzone with that attitude.

 

How would you know? You been in a warzone yourself?

 

Fact is that, regardless of the propaganda, some soldiers will be very aware that the enemy they've just blown into pieces, was a soldier just like them, with a Mother/Father/wife/children.

 

And you're right, it may well lead to them being dead or a basket case.

[JFKvsNixon]

I wasn't there, so I don't know dude

 

All I DO know

 

Is that had I been forced to enlist, fight and kill

 

I would have been HONEST with myself

 

That I was MURDERING other humans

 

Human beings just like me

 

With wives, daughters, sisters, brothers and fathers

 

Aren't you capable of a little empathy?

 

Or is it beyond you to imagine yourself to be in any other situation than your own?

 

If your roots are from this country remember you're talking about people who made huge sacrifices to protect people who are related to your wife, daughter, sister, brother and father.

[Solomon1]

Fine, if you're happy to cherry pick the definitions to suit your needs and ignore all other inputs on the definition of what a murder

 

But isn't that what you're doing JFK

 

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And you're right, it may well lead to them being dead or a basket case

 

...........

[GLASGOWOODS]

It's interesting how many knots people

 

Tie themselves up in

 

To avoid the truth

 

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Which is kinda exactly my point

 

Your grandad was FORCED to MURDER

 

Which is why he became that 'monster'

 

At the end of the day, we all have to live with our conscience

 

So what about the men and women who made the weapons for war, would you categorise them as murderers too?

Edited December 14, 2015 by GLASGOWOODS

[tinfoilhat]

How would you know? You been in a warzone yourself?

 

Fact is that, regardless of the propaganda, some soldiers will be very aware that the enemy they've just blown into pieces, was a soldier just like them, with a Mother/Father/wife/children.

 

And you're right, it may well lead to them being dead or a basket case.

 

Thinking about Hans (I'm back in WW2 here) might have a loving fräulein at home looking after the two kids, hansel and gretel and how they're going to struggle.......in the meantime hans hasn't mucked about (the Germans were by far the most effecient soldiers in WW2) and shot me dead. I've never been near a warzone and even I know that - although if anyone has been in a warzone I'm happy to be corrected.