Cyclone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Of course it does, I never claimed otherwise Just to remind you, this was my comment... Which began with this... It was, as explained, simply to demonstrate that if people with privacy settings are still at some risk then people who openly tell the world their every daily detail and location put themselves at much more risk. It may have seemed convoluted to you but it was merely a case of the criminal being in the right place at the right time (for him) which is how many crimes take place. EDIT: a quickle Google shows there's much more that can be gained from Facebook by criminals.. http://www.komando.com/tips/12469/4-ways-burglars-use-social-media-to-target-you/all It was most definitely convoluted, and required a friend to allow a criminal into their home and given unsupervised access to a logged in facebook account. But anyway, I'm glad we've established that if you use the privacy settings appropriately, there is little to no risk from telling your friends that you're going on holiday. The majority of "complaints" or bad points about facebook are down to how you use it. If you don't like what someone often posts, stop following them, or unfriend them. Don't be friends with anyone except your actual friends. Use the privacy settings so that only your friends can see what you post. Use it how you want to use it. Share photos, organise events, share interesting stories in the news, keep in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Tell me how it works, you may convince me. Well, the confusion on your part seemed to be that you'd be communicating with strangers (the pub full of strangers analogy). That's not the case unless you want it to be. You 'friend' specific people, hopefully those who in real life are your friends and/or family. What you post is then communicated to just these people, and vice versa. It's more flexible than email though. I wouldn't send a group email to 20 people to tell an amusing anecdote that happened, or to say "hey, look at this story in the news, it's interesting". I might do those things on facebook, because it's less directed and people can dip in and out depending on their own time and priorities. My current facebook usages this week have included finding a friend that needed a phone, and selling him my old one. Confirming that I'm going to a club meal on Friday evening. And (slightly less recently) arranging a group snowboarding trip with friends from all over the country, we meet in Meribel in early Jan and have a chalet booked. That could all have been done by email, but emailing everyone I know to ask if they wanted to buy a phone would be a bit silly IMO. And the same for the initial holiday post, my friend from Bristol could have emailed 200 people, but it was a lot easier to use facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 It was most definitely convoluted, and required a friend to allow a criminal into their home and given unsupervised access to a logged in facebook account.Or even simpler, it could just be that any one of your friends could leave themselves logged in somewhere. An office environment would be more common a scenario. But anyway, I'm glad we've established that if you use the privacy settings appropriately, there is little to no risk from telling your friends that you're going on holiday. The majority of "complaints" or bad points about facebook are down to how you use it. If you don't like what someone often posts, stop following them, or unfriend them. Don't be friends with anyone except your actual friends. Use the privacy settings so that only your friends can see what you post. Use it how you want to use it. Share photos, organise events, share interesting stories in the news, keep in touch. The list is merely behaviour that I was surprised is so commonplace. It makes me a little sad is all. Critical thinking FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Yeah, leaving it logged in whilst going to the bathroom is a possibility. A colleague who's also a burglar, and can somehow figure out your address after chancing on the status update about going on holiday, starts to get pretty unlikely. It's probably no more likely than someone overhearing you tell a friend that you'll be on holiday. Life isn't without some risks, we have to understand and choose whether they are acceptable though. Agreed that critical thinking is key to a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Yeah, leaving it logged in whilst going to the bathroom is a possibility. A colleague who's also a burglar, and can somehow figure out your address after chancing on the status update about going on holiday, starts to get pretty unlikely. It's probably no more likely than someone overhearing you tell a friend that you'll be on holiday. Life isn't without some risks, we have to understand and choose whether they are acceptable though. Agreed that critical thinking is key to a lot of things. 4 out of 5 burglars recommend using Facebook (along with other social media websites) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8789538/Most-burglars-using-Facebook-and-Twitter-to-target-victims-survey-suggests.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Which is an interesting headline, given that I've read in the past that most burglaries are impulse crimes and not planned or targeted at all. Ah, interesting source. The results were based on the answers of offenders who were convicted of burglary this year Well known for being entirely honest, criminals... Four out of five of the criminals said social media websites were being used by burglars. However, the same number said a simple home alarm would have deterred them from targeting the property in the first place. What can we learn from this? Fit a burglar alarm... ---------- Post added 17-12-2015 at 11:12 ---------- Yeah, I thought I'd heard this http://www.glevum-security.co.uk/news/entry/getting-inside-the-mind-of-a-burglar 80% of burglars are opportunists, selecting their targets on the spur of the moment. They are on the lookout for properties that appear to be vulnerable yet promise to make their efforts worthwhile. They can't both be true, 4/5 use social media to target victims, whilst the remaining 4/5 commit burglaries on impulse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 http://www.glevum-security.co.uk/news/entry/getting-inside-the-mind-of-a-burglar They can't both be true, 4/5 use social media to target victims, whilst the remaining 4/5 commit burglaries on impulse... Interesting source, a... business... advert? It appears that we've both been (mostly) saying the same thing throughout the thread, you're mostly at risk if you don't take precautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Well, yes, it's a bit suspect, and they're clearly trying to sell alarms. I couldn't (in a very quick google) find the original source of the number. ---------- Post added 17-12-2015 at 12:02 ---------- It appears that we've both been (mostly) saying the same thing throughout the thread, you're mostly at risk if you don't take precautions. Yes, I think we pretty much agree on that. I just don't think that facebook should be demonised. Not that you were really. It gets a bit of stick on SF, but mainly from people who don't use it, and also apparently from people who don't know how to use it. It's just a tool, like email, or text or a phone. They all have their uses, and they can all be misused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted77 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The one about the dog and child must be true, the church made it a saint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Guinefort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 .....what ? What ? If you think that facebook is full of twaddle--"don't go on it". " It a portal to hell" ("Hell is other people " .John Paul Sartre ). It lets loose the monsters that reside in the "Id" of imaginary friends . Facebook friends are not real friends. Real friends require cultivating by being in the presence of real people (human contact). Making friends requires personal skills and personality: charm,intelligence,warmth ,honesty,humour, etc. Making real friends takes time. Socialising requires leaving your home and interacting with other people -mixing with fellow human beings.Getting out more and socialising contributes to a person's evolvement into a proper person. Staying indoors ,prattling to your imaginary friends, is not good for a person's mental health. So it goes. I'm off out to see some real friends . Ting-a-ling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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