Campaign grows to switch the building of HS2 station to Sheffield city

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More good news concerning the cost of this vanity project. Michael Byng, rail expert and the man responsible for devising the way in which Network Rail costs its projects has said the 55 billion cost budget, is ludicrously off the mark. His estimate comes in at 104 billion.

 

Who do you believe.

 

Angel1

 

The latest proposals are simply a PR exercise to make it look like the government are planning to invest significantly in infrastructure in the north.

 

There are four phases for HS2, the first to Birmingham, then onto Manchester, a third through the east Midlands to Leeds and the booby-prize of a loop to Sheffield. As phase one progresses they will discover the costs are much higher than they expected (who knew?) And there will be a review of the whole scheme at which point they will decide they can't possibly afford phase three, let alone phase four and the link to Manchester may be scrapped too.

 

Look at Edinburgh Trams.

[Phili Buster]

Slip coaches were used for a hundred years

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In the modern world the slip coach would be still attached by bungee so that after it stopped at the station it would "twang" back and catch up with the train.

 

 

Hey, wow, I like that idea but you still need the station to offload the passengers

 

My idea, in theory and as I said possibly (!?!?) with a few slight problems, could have many locations for picking up and dropping off passengers. Even your own garden gate if your home backs onto the railway. Following your video link, I also found a video see from about 5:05, amazing that it is on the old LMS.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WO7JxYlhOM

 

So, with your pole and net set up at the side of the track, use your phone app to request a pick-up or drop-off (just like uber), climb in your sack and . . .

Just one thing by the way, I know I put forward the idea but in no way do I want to use the method for boarding or leaving a train

Edited July 23, 2017 by Phili Buster

[Queenbee56]

Call me selfish but I'm just glad that I'll be retired by the time all this happens - getting into Sheffield every day is horrendous at the best of times, with the disruption of all the necessary construction/works it doesn't bear thinking about. For years policy has been to stop traffic coming into the City Centre so confused how this now fits? Would be good to see the old Victoria Station area regenerated.

[Cyclone]

What construction work?

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Queenbee56

 

getting into Sheffield every day is horrendous at the best of times, with the disruption of all the necessary construction/works it doesn't bear thinking about. For years policy has been to stop traffic coming into the City Centre

 

it took me less than 10mins to get to the City Centre from Crookes this morning.

 

'horrendous'...? hardly.

[srtaylo0]

it took me less than 10mins to get to the City Centre from Crookes this morning.

 

'horrendous'...? hardly.

 

school holiday time

[Bargepole23]

school holiday time

 

Or bicycle. I can get to town in the same time from Ecclesall by bike, term time or no term time.

[iainski47]

I really think HS2 is fast becoming a white elephant. Far better to spend the colossal sum of money required on upgrading and electrifying the whole of the line from St Pancras to Sheffield and then spending the money left on a high speed line to Manchester (again upgrading the existing line) and extending supertram to Rotherham and, if practical, Doncaster and Barnsley

[Guest busdriver1]

I really think HS2 is fast becoming a white elephant. Far better to spend the colossal sum of money required on upgrading and electrifying the whole of the line from St Pancras to Sheffield and then spending the money left on a high speed line to Manchester (again upgrading the existing line) and extending supertram to Rotherham and, if practical, Doncaster and Barnsley

 

The people of Rotherham when asked said they didnt want it and I doubt if thats changed.

[1978]

Far better to spend the colossal sum of money required on upgrading and electrifying the whole of the line from St Pancras to Sheffield and then spending the money left on a high speed line to Manchester (again upgrading the existing line)

 

A nice idea to upgrade the existing line to Manchester, another case of DfT lack of focus.

 

Since conception to delivery (assuming it does get delivered) the Hope Valley Capacity Scheme to provide two passing loops for freight trains, and to redouble the lines through Dore & Totley Station, will have been well over 10 years. It may be almost as long as it took to build the entire line from Dore to Chinley including the long Totley and Cowburn tunnels that are relatively narrow. Trains are limited to 60mph through those tunnels. All plans have to take that into account, and the heavy cement and stone trains using the line. They also need to allow for the loading gauge not permitting the largest modern freight trains for container traffic.

 

Upgrading that line significantly will be very expensive and inconvenient. Widening the tunnels and keeping them open for traffiic at the same time would be almost impossible.