Campaign grows to switch the building of HS2 station to Sheffield city

[Baron99]

1 minute ago, Longcol said:

I thought the whole point of HS2 was to spread the London commuter belt further north.

 

And a mini break in Liverpool  

It'd be possibly cheaper to icentivise business & some more Govt departments, (the main reasons why people HAVE TO, possibly not NEED TO travel to London), to move out of London to the Midlands & Northern areas & improve the local commuter routes?

 

(Good night, off to bed). 

[tinfoilhat]

Anybody who does a 40 mile daily commute needs to give their head a wobble.

 

Unless you're going to walk it, in the fullness of time it's going to be less and less common be it by road or train. The government needs to incentivise working closer to home. No idea how though!

[Lex Luthor]

10 hours ago, dubbub said:

Get the Chinese over...they'll have it built in a month 

Yes, the workers and the planners, as it appears proverbial and a brewery springs to mind with our lot.

[ECCOnoob]

7 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Anybody who does a 40 mile daily commute needs to give their head a wobble.

 

Unless you're going to walk it, in the fullness of time it's going to be less and less common be it by road or train. The government needs to incentivise working closer to home. No idea how though!

What a very strange comment.

 

For some parts of the outer reaches of Sheffield there are bus routes and even drives into the same city that take 40 minutes plus.

 

Ask anyone down the South East and the average commute can be double or triple that time each way.

 

Blimey, even one of my old jobs which was only located as near as a suburb in chesterfield took me nearly an hour each way from my house.

 

Whilst I would get fully behind any incentive to get people working close to home, you have to be realistic.

[Robin-H]

1 minute ago, ECCOnoob said:

What a very strange comment.

 

For some parts of the outer reaches of Sheffield there are bus routes and even drives into the same city that take 40 minutes plus.

 

Ask anyone down the South East and the average commute can be double or triple that time each way.

 

Blimey, even one of my old jobs which was only located as near as a suburb in chesterfield took me nearly an hour each way from my house.

 

Whilst I would get fully behind any incentive to get people working close to home, you have to be realistic.

They said 40 mile, not 40 minute. 

[ECCOnoob]

8 hours ago, Robin-H said:

They said 40 mile, not 40 minute. 

Oops.  I stand corrected.   Late night and all that. 

 

Carry on everyone....

[tinfoilhat]

8 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

What a very strange comment.

 

For some parts of the outer reaches of Sheffield there are bus routes and even drives into the same city that take 40 minutes plus.

 

Ask anyone down the South East and the average commute can be double or triple that time each way.

 

Blimey, even one of my old jobs which was only located as near as a suburb in chesterfield took me nearly an hour each way from my house.

 

Whilst I would get fully behind any incentive to get people working close to home, you have to be realistic.

Dont talk to me about the South East commuters! Christ on a bike, I've been in standing traffic on the lower reaches of the M1 before 6.30 and there's no accident, no special event, just volume of traffic. And I always think to myself "You lot choose to do this everyday?!?"

 

40 mins, yeah that's not a daft amount of time. 40 miles at rush hour, twice a day, every day - bonkers. 

[ECCOnoob]

4 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Dont talk to me about the South East commuters! Christ on a bike, I've been in standing traffic on the lower reaches of the M1 before 6.30 and there's no accident, no special event, just volume of traffic. And I always think to myself "You lot choose to do this everyday?!?"

 

ke40 mins, yeah that's not a daft amount of time. 40 miles at rush hour, twice a day, every day - bonrs. 

It is.  But if that's where the best jobs are - you go.  If that's where the clients are - you travel. 

 

Its an ever globalised world is business.   The days of us all living in cute little hamlets dealing with each other a short stroll from everywhere are long gone. 

 

As I have made out before, bearded hipsters in California may try to sell the concept that the entire world can be reached by just a few clicks whilst sat in your home armchair but for most of us, the reality is nothing like that.  

Edited February 13, 2020 by ECCOnoob

[Longcol]

Just now, ECCOnoob said:

It is.  But if that's where the best jobs are - you go.  If that's where the clients are - you travel. 

 

Its an ever globalised world is business.   The days of us all living in cute little hamlets dealing with each other a short stroll from everywhere are long gone. 

And that's what HS2 will perpetuate - it'll just increase the spread of the London commuter belt northwards.  Paid for by all the country.

[tinfoilhat]

2 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

It is.  But if that's where the best jobs are - you go.  If that's where the clients are - you travel. 

 

Its an ever globalised world is business.   The days of us all living in cute little hamlets dealing with each other a short stroll from everywhere are long gone. 

I get that - I go where the best clients are, which this weekend involves driving down to the South coast in a lightly loaded Luton van which will be entertaining.

 

But when I'm sat in traffic, it often looks, and looks can be deceiving, that I'm not queuing up with high powered movers and shakers but call centre drones and the like. In my 15 min drive to the warehouse, I drive past umpteen industrial estates - I walk the dog past one and could walk to a couple of others (a mute point when I've a ton of equipment to shift but its not always the case) but the price difference in rent is HUGE. How many locals in drive past say, Holbrook industrial estate, to do a similar job in Rotherham or chesterfield, when 70 years ago they'd have walked to work.

 

We're lining up different ways to get people to a job 40 miles away, 20 years down the line when maybe we should be incentavising business to hire local?