butlers Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, butlers said: I'm no fan of Johnson ( in any way shape or form) but it has to be remembered that despite his crocodile tears today, Keir Starmer voted against Hs2 in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, mafya said: Don’t worry, by the time it’s completed if ever then all cars will be electric by then. By the time it's completed, we'll probably have teleportation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 So as regards Sheffield - Manchester, they are proudly announcing that the work already committed to will continue being committed to, and that someone thinks it would be a good idea to electrify the Hope line, but not even a hint that the government might fund it at some point in the future. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said: They turned us back at the barrier, so you must have been lucky. If over 66 you can get to East Midlands for £3 15 for an Advance SNR from Derby to Sheffield. Sadly the X57 is no longer going to Manchester Airport or anywhere after Jan 9th The issue for me is not about price it is were I can fly to so Emidlands is a waste of time The 3 hour delay is a feature of the TPE offer and has been for years and simple and easy to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: The issue for me is not about price it is were I can fly to so Emidlands is a waste of time The 3 hour delay is a feature of the TPE offer and has been for years and simple and easy to use Destination is obviously the main consideration but irrelevant when I merely pointing out that arriving at EMA and travelling to Sheffield is quicker, far more flexible and cheaper than MAN. From Manchester Airport Passengers wishing to use this(late Advance ticket) must have their tickets endorsed at the Ticket Office before boarding the train. Queues at the station office to get tickets endorsed. There are no cross platform connections for TPE trains so its crowds/steps/crowds/walk/steps/walk right across Piccadilly. Not valid on two thirds of the trains between Manchester and Sheffield. Often late and crowded. Only one TPE train an hour. Other trains much cheaper. A hidden "1 hour" rule that requires 1 hour travel time between arrivals hall and the station or your ticket won't be endorsed. For early arrivals the TPE ticket is not valid at all. Stress level? From EMA At arrivals door get onto the bus(3ph), pay driver, arrive at to Derby station entrance, catch any train (4ph). Sit. Stress level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 10 hours ago, sadbrewer said: I'm no fan of Johnson ( in any way shape or form) but it has to be remembered that despite his crocodile tears today, Keir Starmer voted against Hs2 in 2017. Hugely expensive vanity project. Perhaps he had a better alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 All this and more, should have been done 50 years ago when France were busy building their equivalent of HS2. Unlike us, they actually got theirs completed. Japan & China make us look like laughing stocks when you look at their railways All this goes to prove is that our Governments have failed us in the last 50 years and that Labour and the Conservatives are equally as bad. Time we stopped playing the big I AM as though we are still a world power and got down to making British citizens lives better at long last. First action should be to cancel the building of the new Royal yacht. If you want to show off, you need something to show off about so do something useful with the money instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Organgrinder said: All this and more, should have been done 50 years ago when France were busy building their equivalent of HS2. Unlike us, they actually got theirs completed. Japan & China make us look like laughing stocks when you look at their railways All this goes to prove is that our Governments have failed us in the last 50 years and that Labour and the Conservatives are equally as bad. Time we stopped playing the big I AM as though we are still a world power and got down to making British citizens lives better at long last. First action should be to cancel the building of the new Royal yacht. If you want to show off, you need something to show off about so do something useful with the money instead. I didn't realise we were...another stupid idea from the idiot we have as prime minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Organgrinder said: All this and more, should have been done 50 years ago when France were busy building their equivalent of HS2. Unlike us, they actually got theirs completed. Japan & China make us look like laughing stocks when you look at their railways All this goes to prove is that our Governments have failed us in the last 50 years and that Labour and the Conservatives are equally as bad. Time we stopped playing the big I AM as though we are still a world power and got down to making British citizens lives better at long last. First action should be to cancel the building of the new Royal yacht. If you want to show off, you need something to show off about so do something useful with the money instead. I was under the impression that it was NOT a Royal yacht as they said they dont need one. I think, like the jumbo, its a vanity project for the PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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