Berberis Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) So, as a Christian, what have you done to stop terror attacks like the one at the ProLife clinic recently in the US? I'm not a Christian. But tell me of any Christian group that is comparable to Daesh in both their actions or numbers? Hint: you need to describe a Christian terrorist group with numbers over 310,000 members and has killed in excess of 250,000 people in the last 5 years. And thats just one Islamic group. Here is a list of current 178 recognised terrorist groups. Note how many are Islamic. Abdullah Azzam Brigades Abu Nidal Organization Abu Sayyaf Aden-Abyan Islamic Army Ajnad Misr Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj al-Aqsa Foundation al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Al-Badr al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya Al Ghurabaa al-Haramain Foundation Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya Al-Mourabitoun Al-Nusra Front al-Qaeda al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb Al-Shabaab Takfir wal-Hijra Al-Umar-Mujahideen All Tripura Tiger Force Ansar al-Sharia (Libya) Ansar al-Sharia (Tunisia) Ansar al-Islam Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna Ansar Bait al-Maqdis Ansar Dine Ansaru Armed Islamic Group of Algeria Army of Islam Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order Osbat al-Ansar Aum Shinrikyo Babbar Khalsa International Balochistan Liberation Army Boko Haram Caucasus Emirate Comite' de Blenfaisance et de Solidarite' avec la Plestine Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Communist Party of the Philippines/ New People's Army Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei Continuity Irish Republican Army Cumann na mBan Deendar Anjuman Donetsk People's Republic Dukhtaran-e-Millat East Turkestan Information Center East Turkestan Islamic Party East Turkestan Liberation Organization Egyptian Islamic Jihad Ergenekon Eta.png Fianna Éireann Force 17 Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front Grey Wolves Hamas Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades Haqqani network Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami Harkat-al-Jihad al-Islami in Bangladesh Harkat-ul-Mujahideen Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami Harakat Sham al-Islam Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin Hezbollah Kurdish Hezbollah Hezbollah (Military Wing) Hezbollah (External Security Organisation) Hezbollah Al-Hejaz Hilafet Devleti Hizb ut-Tahrir Hizbul Mujahideen Hofstad Network Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development Houthis emblem.svg Indian Mujahideen International Sikh Youth Federation Irish National Liberation Army Irish People's Liberation Organisation Islamic Jihad Jamaat Mujahideen Islamic Jihad Union Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Caucasus Province Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Khorasan Province Jaish-e-Mohammed Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar Jamaat Ul-Furquan Jamaat-ul-Ahrar Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh Jamiat al-Islah al-Idzhtimai Jamiat ul-Ansar Jamiat-e Islami Jemaah Islamiyah Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid Jund al-Aqsa Jund al-Khilafah Jund al-Sham Jundallah Kach and Kahane Chai Kangleipak Communist Party Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup Kata'ib Hezbollah Khalistan Commando Force Khalistan Zindabad Force Khuddam ul-Islam Komalah PDK Kurdistan Freedom Falcons Kurdistan Workers' Party Lashkar-e-Taiba Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam Libyan Islamic Fighting Group Loyalist Volunteer Force Lugansk People's Republic Manipur People’s Liberation Front Maoist Communist Centre of India Marxist–Leninist Communist Party Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa Mujahideen Indonesian Timur Mujahideen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem Muslim Brotherhood National Democratic Front of Bodoland National Liberation Army National Liberation Front of Tripura Orange Volunteers Palestine al-muslima Palestine Liberation Front Palestinian Islamic Jihad Palestinian Relief Development Fund – Interpal Party of Free Life of Kurdistan People's Congress of Ichkeria and Dagestan People's Liberation Army of Manipur People's Mujahedin of Iran People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command Provisional Irish Republican Army Quds Force Real Irish Republican Army Red Hand Commando Red Hand Defenders Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia Revolutionary Organization 17 November Revolutionary Party of Kurdistan Revolutionary People's Liberation Party–Front Revolutionary Struggle Saor Éire The Saved Sect Tevhid-Selam (Al-Quds Army) Shining Path[74] Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage Stichting Al Aqsa Students Islamic Movement of India Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus Taliban Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan Tamil Nadu Liberation Army Tamil National Retrieval Troops Tanzim Ulster Defence Association Ulster Volunteer Force United Liberation Front of Assam United National Liberation Front United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia Vanguards of Conquest World Tamil Movement World Uygur Youth Congress And today were are told that 2/3rds of opposition forces in Syria are sympathetic to Daesh. You compare Islamic terrorism with Christian terrorism but complete fail to comprehend the magnitude of Islamic terrorism. There will always be people who want to use terror to get their own way. I did not dispute that. What I am asking is, when will the world say enough is enough. The amount of islamic terrorism is too much and we need to deal with it one way or another. Edited December 20, 2015 by Berberis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I don't think religion was the driving force behind the Irish "troubles".. Nope it was politics. Do you really reckon Islam is the driving force behind ISIS/IS/Daesh/murdering scumbags. Nope its not its just empire building in another form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) I've stopped watching the news because I'm sick and tired of the whole thing. Its all fuelled by the media anyway. Switch off the news and ISIS and Israel don't exist. Try it, it works. I so totally agree with you It would help if people started using Daesh If they REALLY wanted to be part of the solution ---------- Post added 20-12-2015 at 19:46 ---------- Christian terrorist groups: Lords Resistance Army Ku Klux Klan Antibalaka National Liberation Front of Tripura Catholic Reaction Force The IRA Th Aryan Nations Protestant Action Force The Orange Volunteers The Christian Identity Movement The Covenant The Real IRA The Sword Arm of The Lord The Oklahoma Constitution Militia Provisional IRA Christian Terrorism is a thing. Only difference it never makes the evening news. Just like the huge anti-terrorist march by muslims: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hundreds-muslims-marching-against-terrorism-6977099 "Hundreds of Muslims marching against terrorism in London - Ignored by British Media" ---------- Post added 20-12-2015 at 19:51 ---------- "Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil" ---------- Post added 20-12-2015 at 19:56 ---------- Another interesting article: http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men "10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by extreme Christians and Far-Right White Men" Edited December 20, 2015 by Solomon1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 All good stuff above BUT UNTRUE whether muslims or christens or what ever banner they fight under, what they are really fighting for is power. if they are fighting under a religious banner how can you argue it? that is there main weapon, they will all ways have sympathisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 So what's the ratio roughly? Islamic terrorist groups to Christian 160:16? Within the population the ratio of Islam to Christianity is 1:1.3. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 So what's the ratio roughly? Islamic terrorist groups to Christian 160:16? Within the population the ratio of Islam to Christianity is 1:1.3. Just sayin'. My list was not exhaustive - just an example There are HUNDREDS OF CHRISTIAN TERRORIST GROUPS Ask the OP to spend as much time digging up every last Christian Terrorist group As he has in doing his original post THEN do your ratios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 What I am asking is, when will the world say enough is enough. The amount of islamic terrorism is too much and we need to deal with it one way or another. Well, several people answered you and said that the world has never accepted terrorism, "enough is enough" was declared about terrorism in general a long time ago. Unfortunately just saying it doesn't make terrorism go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 See edits below Christian terrorist groups: Lords Resistance Army - Not active and no longer listed as a terrorist group. Ku Klux Klan - Is a white supremacy, white nationalism, and anti-immigration group. Antibalaka National Liberation Front of Tripura Catholic Reaction Force - Declared a ceasefire in 1994 The IRA - Declared a ceasefire in 1994 Th Aryan Nations - Inactive Protestant Action Force - Inactive since 1991 The Orange Volunteers The Christian Identity Movement - White supremacists but not considered terrorists. The Covenant -Inactive since 1984 The Real IRA - Political not religious The Sword - Same group as The Covenant Arm of The Lord - Same group as The Covenant The Oklahoma Constitution Militia - Doomsday group, not a terrorist group. Provisional IRA - Political not religious Christian Terrorism is a thing. Christian Terrorism is a thing, correct, but it is tiny in proportion to that of Islamic terrorism. ---------- Post added 21-12-2015 at 11:39 ---------- Well, several people answered you and said that the world has never accepted terrorism, "enough is enough" was declared about terrorism in general a long time ago. Unfortunately just saying it doesn't make terrorism go away. History tells another story though, where groups have risen to power in nations, terrorising those inside and outside only to eventually need to be headed off at great cost to all. Like I have said before, the peaceful majority was irrelevant in all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckythyump Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Thats utter nonsense. David Ikke territory.Like promising 72 virgins in Glasgow. ---------- Post added 05-02-2016 at 23:47 ---------- I'm not a Christian. But tell me of any Christian group that is comparable to Daesh in both their actions or numbers? Hint: you need to describe a Christian terrorist group with numbers over 310,000 members and has killed in excess of 250,000 people in the last 5 years. And thats just one Islamic group. Here is a list of current 178 recognised terrorist groups. Note how many are Islamic. Abdullah Azzam Brigades Abu Nidal Organization Abu Sayyaf Aden-Abyan Islamic Army Ajnad Misr Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj al-Aqsa Foundation al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Al-Badr al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya Al Ghurabaa al-Haramain Foundation Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya Al-Mourabitoun Al-Nusra Front al-Qaeda al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb Al-Shabaab Takfir wal-Hijra Al-Umar-Mujahideen All Tripura Tiger Force Ansar al-Sharia (Libya) Ansar al-Sharia (Tunisia) Ansar al-Islam Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna Ansar Bait al-Maqdis Ansar Dine Ansaru Armed Islamic Group of Algeria Army of Islam Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order Osbat al-Ansar Aum Shinrikyo Babbar Khalsa International Balochistan Liberation Army Boko Haram Caucasus Emirate Comite' de Blenfaisance et de Solidarite' avec la Plestine Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Communist Party of the Philippines/ New People's Army Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei Continuity Irish Republican Army Cumann na mBan Deendar Anjuman Donetsk People's Republic Dukhtaran-e-Millat East Turkestan Information Center East Turkestan Islamic Party East Turkestan Liberation Organization Egyptian Islamic Jihad Ergenekon Eta.png Fianna Éireann Force 17 Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front Grey Wolves Hamas Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades Haqqani network Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami Harkat-al-Jihad al-Islami in Bangladesh Harkat-ul-Mujahideen Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami Harakat Sham al-Islam Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin Hezbollah Kurdish Hezbollah Hezbollah (Military Wing) Hezbollah (External Security Organisation) Hezbollah Al-Hejaz Hilafet Devleti Hizb ut-Tahrir Hizbul Mujahideen Hofstad Network Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development Houthis emblem.svg Indian Mujahideen International Sikh Youth Federation Irish National Liberation Army Irish People's Liberation Organisation Islamic Jihad Jamaat Mujahideen Islamic Jihad Union Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Caucasus Province Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Khorasan Province Jaish-e-Mohammed Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar Jamaat Ul-Furquan Jamaat-ul-Ahrar Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh Jamiat al-Islah al-Idzhtimai Jamiat ul-Ansar Jamiat-e Islami Jemaah Islamiyah Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid Jund al-Aqsa Jund al-Khilafah Jund al-Sham Jundallah Kach and Kahane Chai Kangleipak Communist Party Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup Kata'ib Hezbollah Khalistan Commando Force Khalistan Zindabad Force Khuddam ul-Islam Komalah PDK Kurdistan Freedom Falcons Kurdistan Workers' Party Lashkar-e-Taiba Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam Libyan Islamic Fighting Group Loyalist Volunteer Force Lugansk People's Republic Manipur People’s Liberation Front Maoist Communist Centre of India Marxist–Leninist Communist Party Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa Mujahideen Indonesian Timur Mujahideen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem Muslim Brotherhood National Democratic Front of Bodoland National Liberation Army National Liberation Front of Tripura Orange Volunteers Palestine al-muslima Palestine Liberation Front Palestinian Islamic Jihad Palestinian Relief Development Fund – Interpal Party of Free Life of Kurdistan People's Congress of Ichkeria and Dagestan People's Liberation Army of Manipur People's Mujahedin of Iran People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command Provisional Irish Republican Army Quds Force Real Irish Republican Army Red Hand Commando Red Hand Defenders Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia Revolutionary Organization 17 November Revolutionary Party of Kurdistan Revolutionary People's Liberation Party–Front Revolutionary Struggle Saor Éire The Saved Sect Tevhid-Selam (Al-Quds Army) Shining Path[74] Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage Stichting Al Aqsa Students Islamic Movement of India Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus Taliban Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan Tamil Nadu Liberation Army Tamil National Retrieval Troops Tanzim Ulster Defence Association Ulster Volunteer Force United Liberation Front of Assam United National Liberation Front United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia Vanguards of Conquest World Tamil Movement World Uygur Youth Congress And today were are told that 2/3rds of opposition forces in Syria are sympathetic to Daesh. You compare Islamic terrorism with Christian terrorism but complete fail to comprehend the magnitude of Islamic terrorism. There will always be people who want to use terror to get their own way. I did not dispute that. What I am asking is, when will the world say enough is enough. The amount of islamic terrorism is too much and we need to deal with it one way or another. Brilliant why don't you stand for parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalharry Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Sorry for the ambiguous title but it is the crux of the question. When is enough, enough Islamic terrorism for he world to say there is an issue needs addressing. Every week (it seems) there is some revelation about a person or group killing, attack or planning to attack none Muslims and Muslims alike, somewhere in the world. When will there be enough Muslim terrorists for the world to say, "there is something fundamentally wrong with Islam"? And who makes this decision? History is littered with despots, tyrants and groups that could have been stopped but the world refused to accept there was a problem until it was too late. Is this were we are with Islam? or at least some sects within Islam? Is the world too scared of being labelled racist to do anything until its too late? We hear as a counter argument that the terrorists are not typical of Muslims on a whole. That they are only a tiny proportion of muslims or that they are not real muslims. But again, looking back in history, it is never the majority that have caused the huge historic incidents. It is always a minority, be they the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, Imperial Japan or the Nazi Party in Germany. All were a minority controlling a majority and while this majority sat on its hands, heinous acts were carried out in their names. Then we have the flip side of the argument. Where many Muslims will say that Israel is the problem in the middle east. Labelling an entire nation and its population as a problem caused by the actions of a few. However the irony of this statement is missed by most. Some say that the only reason for Islamic terrorism in the west is due to our invasions of their lands in the past. Strange but how many who lived through through WWII remember German terrorism on foreign nations who took part in opposing the Nazi's such as we see today with Muslims? Is it time a wedge was firmly pushed between the terrorists and their sympathisers or are they so integrated within Islam it would never work. If so, who can effect such a situation where terrorist sympathisers were hounded out of communities and shunned? Its certainty not something we as outsiders can do. It seems to me that currently, terrorism is firmly in the hands of Islam, but Islam has the power and the ability to resolve this issue. Muslims need to take it upon themselves to protest and fight for the name of their religion as much as they fight for their religious rights. I await the usual suspects to start the attack. Islam's a peaceful religion. Yet on the one hand you say there's something fundamentally wrong with Islam?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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