unbeliever Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Please enlighten us and tell us which newspapers you read? I know you didn't ask me, but it has always been my habit to read the Guardian and the Telegraph. I like to hear from both sides of the traditional divide before making up my mind. I don't trust anybody who claims to be impartial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Please enlighten us and tell us which newspapers you read? You just can't handle the truth tinfoilhatman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Well done. Or is perhaps the Morning Star part of this conspiracy. If so, I suspect it would be news to them. I didn't have a similar problem with Milliband, Brown, Blair, Smith or Kinnock. Ah yes the morning Star. It's owned by millionaires you know. You read the papers..?....hahahaha, you do realise they are owned by millionaires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Ah yes the morning Star. It's owned by millionaires you know. Is it? i dont read it.... as long as they pay their tax i dont mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Corbyn will not only gift the next election to Tories. He will very likely split the Labour Party. One part moving further left and the rest moving to the centre ground. It will probably split the left of centre vote for several elections beyond 2020. The damage might be irreversible. Since the old SDP was absorbed into the Lib Dems and Owen's "continuing SDP" folded back in 1990; perhaps it's time for a new one. The conditions are rather similar. ---------- Post added 10-01-2016 at 14:15 ---------- Is it? i dont read it.... as long as they pay their tax i dont mind. So if they're not part of the "right wing media brainwashing campaign" why do they also classify Corbyn as "far left"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Since the old SDP was absorbed into the Lib Dems and Owen's "continuing SDP" folded back in 1990; perhaps it's time for a new one. The conditions are rather similar. ---------- Post added 10-01-2016 at 14:15 ---------- So if they're not part of the "right wing media brainwashing campaign" why do they also classify Corbyn as "far left"? You would have to ask them that, i dont write for them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You would have to ask them that, i dont write for them.. Now all of a sudden you're not the font of all knowledge on the workings and intentions of the press. Interesting. You're dancing around it. But clearly press and people outside of your supposed "right wing media brainwashing" see Corbyn as hard left. Why is is a problem anyway? There's nothing wrong with being hard left. If a person is of the view that it would be better for us to have the GDP/capita of North Korea and be united in extreme poverty far worse than anything the UK people have experienced in living memory, they're entitled to say so. I'm just not going to vote for such a person and neither I suspect will anybody else outside the "donkey with a red rosette" brigade that you obviously belong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is it? i dont read it.... as long as they pay their tax i dont mind. Shame you don't, they are Corbyn's biggest supporters in the media. He used to write articles for them until recently. Surprised you claim to know all about political bias in the printed and televised media industry but know nothing about the Morning Star. FYI, the editorial view of the Morning Star is taken from Britain's Road to Socialism, the programme of the Communist Party of Britain. The editor of the Morning Star is Ben Chacko, a member of the Communist Party of Britain. A fine example of the middle class left wing, with a mother educated at Oxford, a brother a leading tax barrister and he himself was educated at a grammar school later going to Oxford where he studied Mandarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Now all of a sudden you're not the font of all knowledge on the workings and intentions of the press. Interesting. You're dancing around it. But clearly press and people outside of your supposed "right wing media brainwashing" see Corbyn as hard left. Why is is a problem anyway? There's nothing wrong with being hard left. If a person is of the view that it would be better for us to have the GDP/capita of North Korea and be united in extreme poverty far worse than anything the UK people have experienced in living memory, they're entitled to say so. I'm just not going to vote for such a person and neither I suspect will anybody else outside the "donkey with a red rosette" brigade that you obviously belong to. If you regard him as hard left, well thats up to you, i for one just regard him as a left, i cant imagine why he should be called hard left, but i suppose it suits the media to portray him as hard left, its makes him appear a little scary, it certainly seems to have you lot in a panic, when the BBC talk about Corbyn, they always refer to him as Mr Corbyn the hard left leader, when they mention Cameron they dont mention he is a right winger, its just Mr Cameron, its all put that doubt in peoples minds, if he was actually hard left, then great, but he is not, when you compare him to true socialists from the 60's, then you will see he is only sightly to the left....but if you want to argue about whether he is left, or hard left, we can argue the point all day. but i feel we will not agree on it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If you regard him as hard left, well thats up to you, i for one just regard him as a left, i cant imagine why he should be called hard left, but i suppose it suits the media to portray him as hard left, its makes him appear a little scary, it certainly seems to have you lot in a panic, when the BBC talk about Corbyn, they always refer to him as Mr Corbyn the hard left leader, when they mention Cameron they dont mention he is a right winger, its just Mr Cameron, its all put that doubt in peoples minds, if he was actually hard left, then great, but he is not, when you compare him to true socialists from the 60's, then you will see he is only sightly to the left....but if you want to argue about whether he is left, or hard left, we can argue the point all day. but i feel we will not agree on it.. These terms evolve. What does it matter if he wouldn't be hard left by '60s standards. It's todays standards that matter. A lot of us are keen that Corbyn shouldn't run the country. Largely because the last time somebody like him was in charge we had the IMF in and it took over a decade to recover. He's proposing to try policies that were disastrous before and send us the way of Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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