JFKvsNixon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 That has nothing to do with this thread. SEN children dont just have problems spelling and reading, SEN children can be much worse, often being taught in separate classrooms. I think it does. Children with borderline SEN problems and parents that value their children's education have often developed or are developing their own coping/management strategies during the time that their parents spend with them augmenting their education. Without this educational nurturing from their parents at home, the children with borderline SEN problems struggle a lot more to achieve their potential so their issues will be more pronounced at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Your link doesnt work. Other articles by the Telegraph seem to dispute that figure. Have you got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Have you got a link? No otherwise I would have posted it. the three articles I saw seemed to dispute he 20% figure and they were from 2012. Presumably you know better which article you were basing your post on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think it does. Children with borderline SEN problems and parents. I have just googled the SEN % of my local mainstream schools, and it was less than 3%, so there must be at least 10% is separate specialist schools. Mainstream SEN children are likely to have minor issues. ---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 19:08 ---------- Its likely that this is the same link, just playing up. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/9260331/Can-20-per-cent-of-schoolchildren-really-have-special-needs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesther Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It shouldn't come as a shock that those parents who valued their own education value the education of their children, and those that didn't don't. That's a rather simplistic view and flawed viewpoint. Don't forget the key environmental and social factors that impact on SEN levels - and the most shocking and devastating of all - poor care during pregnancy, birth and post-natal care. ---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 14:54 ---------- I have just googled the SEN % of my local mainstream schools, and it was less than 3%, so there must be at least 10% is separate specialist schools. Mainstream SEN children are likely to have minor issues. ---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 19:08 ---------- Its likely that this is the same link, just playing up. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/9260331/Can-20-per-cent-of-schoolchildren-really-have-special-needs.html This could also be due to a poor 'screening' system in school, or that parents with SEN children feel that their children will be better supported in other schools, so have chosen them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 What is interesting is how higher levels of unemployment and poverty creates a higher proportion of children with special needs. Its not all bad some SEN's are children with higher intelligence. Is that such a bad thing? Its just the school system is designed for the average and those brainy kids dont get the support they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Thousands of pupils are being wrongly labelled as having special educational needs when all they require is better teaching and support, Ofsted has said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11287193 However the only way to get the support is to be labelled with Special needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 That's a rather simplistic view and flawed viewpoint. Don't forget the key environmental and social factors that impact on SEN levels - and the most shocking and devastating of all - poor care during pregnancy, birth and post-natal care. I didnt start out with any facts about SEN, just thought that it would be an interesting thread. My thoughts are that hospitals have got so much better at not letting babies die when they are born too early, that would lead to more SEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghozer Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I was assessed and statemented at the age 6, once I left school, (a partial residential, that did not do GCSEs, and was closed down before I reached leaving age) no one took any notice and im currently going through tribunal over ESA.. not going into all the details (typing on my phone for a start) but I can tell you now, that SEN people, are not just those who cant spell properly, or who are just a little behind... Since leaving school, with an SEN, I had ZERO support from anyone.... no qualifications either, and people wonder why im struggling constantly, im 33 and sick of this constant struggle im in!! Had no income since Oct 7th because of ESA thing!! :/ Edited December 31, 2015 by Ghozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 What is ESA? And shouldn't the thread title be "20% of children have SEN"? You can't be a condition, a condition is something you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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