Conspiracy theorists

[Vague_Boy]

An ordinary person has never seen an atom or measured how far away the moon is.

 

Eratosthenes worked out that the earth was spherical and calculated the earth's circumference using sticks, shadows and a bit of maths. Not bad... for the third century BC.

 

(Though of course, there's always the possibility that there never was a person called Eratosthenes and that the earth is really flat. "They" don't want you to know the truth.)

 

Anyhoo, once you've worked out the circumference of the earth (do you need to borrow some sticks?) you can work out the distance from the earth to the moon.

 

How to measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon

 

No electronics or computers required ("they" might have hacked into them don'tcha know).

 

Have fun!

 

If you want to take a gander at atoms, why don't you build yourself a cloud chamber? It's not very complicated [LINK]

 

The cloud chamber played a crucial part in the splitting of the atom and the development of the atomic bomb (assuming of course, that there are such things as atomic bombs).

 

C. T. R. Wilson returned to Cambridge and began to try to make clouds artificially. In order to do so he designed himself a cloud chamber. The chamber worked on the principle that a drop in pressure would cause condensation of moist air. A glass container with a piston inside it was connected to a glass globe via a valve. The air in the glass globe was pumped out, and at the same time moist air was let into the glass container above the piston. When the valve between the glass globe containing the vacuum and the underpart of the glass container was opened, the air below the piston rushed into the glass globe, pulling the piston sharply downwards in less than a hundredth of a second. In the space above the piston, the sudden downward movement caused a drop in pressure of the moist air, which, as a result, condensed to form clouds. At the time, everybody thought that the condensation of water into clouds happened because the tiny droplets coagulated on to fine particles of dust in the air, and that this was what caused rain to form. But when one day Wilson used an electric charge to attract away all the dust particles which might have been present in the air within the container, and had done this for long enough to be sure that the air was absolutely free of dust, the impossible happened: condensation still took place. Months of testing showed that condensation had nothing to do with the presence of dust after all. Yet the faster the drop in pressure in the container, the denser the fog Wilson produced. At this juncture Wilson concluded that the condensation must be due to some particle too minute for him to detect, and there he let the matter rest. He was not to know that in those tiny cloud streaks across his chamber he had triggered a scientific time bomb that was to explode with unimaginable force years later.

 

Back in 1912 he [Wilson] had taken photographs of the streaks of condensing droplets in the cloud chamber, and had shown these to Ernest Rutherford, a colleague at Cambridge who was working in the field of atomic physics. The photographs showed the streaks and, at certain points, secondary streaks moving away from the main track at a tangent. Rutherford took one look at the photographs and became immensely excited. They showed what he had deduced less than a year before: the scattering of subatomic particles of alpha radiation.

 

Burke, James (2012-02-21). Connections. Simon & Schuster UK. Kindle Edition.

 

So, photograph those streaks and you're away. If Wilson could do it in 1912, it should be no problem for someone living in the Space Year 2016.

[cassity]

 

The ordinary man in the street cannot disprove whether or not a man landed on the moon, whether bacteria or atoms exist, whether climate science is true, does smoking cause cancer; what makes a person question "know facts"?

 

 

In that case, did you watch you mother and father conceive you? No? How do you know you exist?

[sgtkate]

In that case, did you watch you mother and father conceive you? No? How do you know you exist?

 

Oh blimey, that's a bit deep isn't it?

 

Just realised there's an accidental rude pun in there. Snigger.

[El Cid]

In that case, did you watch you mother and father conceive you? No? How do you know you exist?

 

I believe it to be true, it is up to the conspiracy theorists to prove otherwise

[Anna B]

Indeed. Pretty much everything in our lives requires some trust in the source. We witness hardly anything with our own eyes and even when we do we don't actually see what's there, we see our brains interpretation of it. Hence why optical illusions work.

 

And you know what? Isn't it great?!? Everyone sees the world differently, not just metaphorically, but literally and as a result we've got 7bn different view points and solutions and somewhere in the middle of all that lot we'll have perfection.

 

I think this goes to the heart of the matter. More and more people are losing trust in the people and institutions that were once respected, and certainly in the media, which is the way most people get their information. Also people have more access now to opposite viewpoints and evidence that has previously been unavailable, or, dare I say it, suppressed.

 

Often, to acquire government funding for projects, requires a willingness to abide by the government's agenda, and its preferred view of the world, and therefore propagates the continuation of 'norms' and an unwillingness to rock the boat with new, controversial ideas.

[Quik]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-earthquake-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-20160105-story.html

 

Still of the NK 'hydrogen bomb' supposedly the other day

 

 

Footage of the first soviet h bomb test from 1953.

 

Check out frames from 1:20 onwards, its the same shot, the background clouds are exactly the same.

[RootsBooster]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-earthquake-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-20160105-story.html

 

Still of the NK 'hydrogen bomb' supposedly the other day

 

 

Footage of the first soviet h bomb test from 1953.

 

Check out frames from 1:20 onwards, its the same shot, the background clouds are exactly the same.

 

It is indeed old footage, the news channel using it is YTN, a South Korean News Network.

[Anna B]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-earthquake-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-20160105-story.html

 

Still of the NK 'hydrogen bomb' supposedly the other day

 

 

Footage of the first soviet h bomb test from 1953.

 

Check out frames from 1:20 onwards, its the same shot, the background clouds are exactly the same.

 

Well spotted.

 

Now, who's trying to fool who? And why...?

[truman]

Well spotted.

 

Now, who's trying to fool who? And why...?

 

As it was shown on N Korean T.V I suspect they are trying to fool people... the reason is obvious... do you have a different view?

[Anna B]

As it was shown on N Korean T.V I suspect they are trying to fool people... the reason is obvious... do you have a different view?

 

No, I agree, but I'm just curious as to why the Chicago Tribune who carried the picture, or any other media outlet, didn't take the opportunity to point it out. It's an excellent example of news propaganda, I would have thought they would have jumped on it.

 

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As it was shown on N Korean T.V I suspect they are trying to fool people... the reason is obvious... do you have a different view?

 

No, I agree, but I'm just curious as to why the Chicago Tribune who carried the picture, or any other media outlet, didn't take the opportunity to point it out. It's an excellent example of how news can be manipulated. I would have thought they would have jumped on it.