Quik Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's worth bearing in mind that the first such challenge was 25 years ago (FIS in Algeria) and didn't lead to a domino effect of similar results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 No to grave threat and no to in danger of being overthrown. Get things in proportion. There are those ,with a sense of proportion ,who are better informed than you and I . Who do consider that there is a threat. ---------- Post added 06-01-2016 at 17:56 ---------- I got bored very early on in that post. According to my wife (who 'does' politics, I don't) we don't live in a democracy because of the way our voting system works (she's qualified in politics, it bores me) I do religion, so from my politically unqualified view the answer to your question is no. At the cost of stretching your attention. I did politics . Democracy is more than a voting systems. It's about :institutions and people's relationship to the State and the Law - just to mention a few Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The threat to western democracy posed by religious fundamentalism is absolutely dwarfed by the threat posed by our response to religious fundamentalism. Increased suspicionless surveillance, extraordinary rendition, detention without trial. Donald Trump even wants to ban members of one religion from entering the largest western democracy. No, those are far greater threats to our democracy than the religious fundamentalists in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Not in the slightest. It's early days yet. I admire you confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The threat to western democracy posed by religious fundamentalists is nothing compared to the threat posed by Politicians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 If there are threats to democracy then religious fundamentalism is one, politicians in Westminster would be another (e.g. threats to take away some liberties). There are other institutions that may be considered a threat to democracy, but I'm too tied to think of them. As others have said, I think things need to be kept in proportion. But we must be ever vigilant to ensure people's freedoms and rights, which are precious, and hard fought for, aren't eroded. I get your point about " politicians". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The threat to western democracy posed by religious fundamentalism is absolutely dwarfed by the threat posed by our response to religious fundamentalism. Increased suspicionless surveillance, extraordinary rendition, detention without trial. Donald Trump even wants to ban members of one religion from entering the largest western democracy. No, those are far greater threats to our democracy than the religious fundamentalists in my view. A very good response. You're correct that things like detention without trial is about how 'democracies' like ours respond to what are perceived to be threats. I hear a lot from politicians who say after something like 7/7, 'people must continue to go about their business to show the terrorists they haven't won'. But if we participate in extraordinary rendition and detention without trial, then the terrorists have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The threat to western democracy posed by religious fundamentalism is absolutely dwarfed by the threat posed by our response to religious fundamentalism. Increased suspicionless surveillance, extraordinary rendition, detention without trial. Donald Trump even wants to ban members of one religion from entering the largest western democracy. No, those are far greater threats to our democracy than the religious fundamentalists in my view. I don't necessarily disagree, however if we accept that then do we accept the undemocratic acts undertaken in the name of fighting Nazism were a greater threat than Hitler? Suspension of elections, internment without trial based on nationality and/or political views are clearly undemocratic, but were judged a lesser evil at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Short answer, no. A more pertinent question the OP might like to consider is - is the use of the question mark to denote a question a dying art? It "appears to be " . I admire your emphatic , "No". It demonstrates a confidence not shared by political commentators such as Todorov. But, the hell, what does he know. So it goes. Edited January 6, 2016 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't necessarily disagree, however if we accept that then the undemocratic acts undertaken in the name of fighting Nazism were a greater threat than Hitler? Suspension of elections, internment without trial based on nationality and/or political views are clearly undemocratic, but were judged a lesser evil at the time. I guess where there is 'Total War', in which Britons lived between 1939-45, then, yes, certain liberties may have to be curtailed. However Britain 2016 is not in that situation. And again in the 1970s, Internment in Northern Ireland was a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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