sgtkate Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Isn't that communism rather than socialism? Don't think so: https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=what+is+socialism&meta=&safe=active&gws_rd=ssl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 You can do better than that. There isn't a single socialist country on earth at the moment. Calling yourself socialist and being socialist are not the same things. For starters socialism would mean having no money, not a single country that has no money to my knowledge. Socialist is used in relative terms and it is quite legitimate to do so. Otherwise there are no capitalist countries either and we have no way of discussing the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Socialist is used in relative terms and it is quite legitimate to do so. Otherwise there are no capitalist countries either and we have no way of discussing the matter. That's a fair point. I genuinely wasn't trying to be pedantic on this, but we don't have anything really bordering on a genuine socialist state, whereas we have many countries that border on genuine capitalism. Throwing a spanner in the works here: but what is so wrong with the world we have now that we are trying to fix it? I look around me and I see a wonderful place full of amazing people, nature, opportunities etc. There are things that aren't so good, wars, needless suffering etc, but these can be fixed without looking to rip up our entire system and replace it. Everyone seems so preoccupied with trying to reach nirvana that they fail to see that there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The massive level of inequality, the starving people, those in poverty, the increasing lack of social mobility, all of which then causes things like brexit and trump... Self destructive for those who voted for these things, but all they understand is that the status quo doesn't work for them, so they vote for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The massive level of inequality, the starving people, those in poverty, the increasing lack of social mobility, all of which then causes things like brexit and trump... Self destructive for those who voted for these things, but all they understand is that the status quo doesn't work for them, so they vote for a change. You say this kind of thing a lot but it's clear that these are things you assert on the basis of faith in the virtue of a statism. Whilst it may seem perfectly clear to you, just asserting it is unlikely to convince anybody who currently thinks otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 You 2 seems stuck in some weird Inception loop... please explain what this means..what is an inception loop when its at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 please explain what this means..what is an inception loop when its at home? The film? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The film? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception ok....i dont watch films, so i wouldnt have a clue, but thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 ok....i dont watch films, so i wouldnt have a clue, but thanks Yeah sorry, was just saying that you and Truman seemed to be going around in ever decreasing circles of confusion that was all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Isn't that communism rather than socialism? Wasn't the USSR communist? Even that stood for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics... how would you define each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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