Is it racist to criticise Islam?

[SiSiSi]

Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."

 

There you go. If they were 2nd class citizens they'd be beaten severely!

[runningman1]

That is what happens when you go to anti Islamic sites and put a quote that has no basis and was never attributed to Tabari.

 

Even worse the reference is incorrect as in Quran 9:113 has no relation to the above.

 

But trying to make it out you had some knowledge on Islam and may have suckered a few on here...remember ignorance never prevails. Your anti Islamic source put in a false reference and duped ppl to believe it is from the Quran.

 

But An Nisa does state that it is ok for a man to beat his wife. Did you know that?

[SnailyBoy]

That is what happens when you go to anti Islamic sites and put a quote that has no basis and was never attributed to Tabari.

 

Even worse the reference is incorrect as in Quran 9:113 has no relation to the above.

 

But trying to make it out you had some knowledge on Islam and may have suckered a few on here...remember ignorance never prevails. Your anti Islamic source put in a false reference and duped ppl to believe it is from the Quran.

 

Well it was Google actually, I read a lot of bluff and bluster about this and that on various pages. It was depressing the amount of energy put into it.

 

Islam isn't the problem, faith is the problem.

 

Ultimately we're left with a enormous number of people pretending they know things they don't know.

 

Islam is just a by product.

[Zamo]

Germany remains reluctant to openly criticise refugees moulded by Islam but actions speak louder than words... Germany has run out of pepper spray.

[Bonzo77]

I didn't see you (or any of the other usual suspects) make the same complaint in the 91 page "lets all get together and bash Christianity" thread?

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1336059&highlight=ebola&page=91

 

So is it just the religions 'traditional' to the West that should be fair game?

 

Genuine question.

 

I've not been on this forum for months. Must of missed that thread. I've been busy working most of last year.

 

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*COUGHS*

 

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/women/long.html

 

...that's not to say that they're much better off in other religious texts.

 

You can take any religious text and find parts that are out of date and/or no longer relevant.

 

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You don't see a link between what it says in the Koran and people doing the things it says in the Koran?

 

Being a football fan doesn't directly lead to violence but if you support a club that has a problem with violence, and don't do something about it or withdraw your support, then you are part of the problem. English clubs were all banned in the 80's from European competitions because of the violence of the few and the inaction of the many... and rightly so. Think on it.

 

Hmmm, and Muslims aren't doing a thing to combat extremism are they?

[RootsBooster]

You can take any religious text and find parts that are out of date and/or no longer relevant.

 

What qualifies them as no longer relevant?

[Eric Arthur]

Bonzo77 has nearly achieved his stated objective of getting the topic closed because he's switched the topic to trollbait about the bad things that some Muslims do, not whether it is racist to criticise Islam.

 

 

Is it racist to criticise Islam?

[Bonzo77]

Out of interest, where do you place wahabism/salafism on that scale?

 

The correlation between Islamic religious influence upon a country's culture and the enduring prevalence of patriarchal values in that same culture is as glaring as a nose on face.

 

All the more interesting when you pause for a moment to consider the retrograde cultural slide of many such countries into more fundamentalist patriarchal values and practices since their more secular days in the 60s and 70s.

Which ones?

 

Can I have some examples? Lives ones, if you please, as historical evidence suggests that females heads of state in such countries don't grow very old, either

 

From Afghanistan to Indonesia. Look it up.

[Zamo]

 

You can take any religious text and find parts that are out of date and/or no longer relevant

 

How can a god's instruction on how to behave go out of date? Are you saying god was happy for men to slap women about a bit in 616 but not in 2016? What brought about this rethink and how did an infallible super being make such a mistake in the first place?

 

Hmmm, and Muslims aren't doing a thing to combat extremism are they?

 

What are they doing because it doesn't seem to be working? All the evidence seems to point to Islamic extremism getting worse. France announced today that it is a permanent state of emergency because of the Islamic terror threat.

[RootsBooster]

Bonzo77 has nearly achieved his stated objective of getting the topic closed because he's switched the topic to trollbait about the bad things that some Muslims do, not whether it is racist to criticise Islam.

 

 

Is it racist to criticise Islam?

 

Looking back, the thread was almost all on topic until Bonzo came in with his claim that the thread was a back door to Islam bashing. It's almost as though he was trying to trigger what he claimed