Eater Sundae Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not backing the governments position, I'm just sharing what I think about the subject. It does seem that you're suggesting is that the drugs you sell should be allowed to have a different set of standards to the drugs other businesses sell, I think that's wrong I agree 100% with giving people the choice over what drugs they decide to take within reason, but part of the that choice is also about giving the people as much information about the drug that their taking as possible and also giving them assurances over quality control. That's pretty much how I see it. Also, if something is already available and has a pretty clean bill of health, then it's surely not that hard to allow it through without extensive additional testing - so such things as coffee get straight in, along with well established herbal medecines which have been available for years, as a sort of "grandfather rights". However, ANYTHING new, be it legal highs, new food formulations (or maybe just those foods which claim medicinal properties) as well as any new medecines must be demonstrated to be safe (or the dangers known and understood) before they can be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Because it's better to find out if something is dangerous before people start taking it. Rather than collecting up the bodies and saying "oops". So a full multimillion pound clinical trail everytime someone wants to release a new bodybuilding supplement? because many of those aren't tested until someone starts using them but thats not psychoactive right?? Yea I'm sure all the people selling 'legal highs' are just going to swap to saying that as well. "It's plant food" "it's for cleaning your bath" "it's a room fragrance" "it stops your headphones getting tangled" etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalharry Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Im with geared....why does every substance or plant have to undergo millions of pounds of research and extensive testing? its not practical, not necessary and it stops megacorps getting hands on everything! Theres plenty of herbal substances being taken for thousands of years, taken before the west gets hands on it by tribes and then by individuals. You just have to do some digging to find out whether its safe. You dont need a corporation or a government to tell you these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 So a full multimillion pound clinical trail everytime someone wants to release a new bodybuilding supplement? because many of those aren't tested until someone starts using them but thats not psychoactive right?? Yea I'm sure all the people selling 'legal highs' are just going to swap to saying that as well. "It's plant food" "it's for cleaning your bath" "it's a room fragrance" "it stops your headphones getting tangled" etc etc etc What matters is the ingredients. If the chemical make-up of a product has all been approved for human consumption, you don't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalharry Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 if its a plant, and you get it from the original source (not being cut or messed with) and you do your own research it doesnt have to be 'approved'. the issue with designer highs is its cooked up in labs and then sold as plant food so god knows whats in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogg Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Legalize most drugs, except those that kill you right off - Give users who wish it treatment instead of prison. This would put a stop to much gang activity (and the violence and rape culture that go with it) at a stroke and make a lot of criminals unemployed - of course they might try to go into the sex trade instead but we would have to have a dedicated police unit to tackle that, paid for with the money raised in taxes on all these legal drugs, and all the money we save on keeping drug users in prison. Acquisitive crime would also most disappear making us all feel safer on the streets and in our beds and we would be able to pop out and buy an E from our local Chemist. Edited January 21, 2016 by Hogg typo again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Legalize most drugs, except those that kill you right off - Give users who wish it treatment instead of prison. This would put a stop to much gang activity (and the violence and rape culture that go with it) at a stroke and make a lot of criminals unemployed - of course they might try to go into the sex trade instead but we would have to have a dedicated police unit to tackle that, paid for with the money raised in taxes on all these legal drugs, and all the money we save on keeping drug users in prison. Acquisitive crime would also most disappear making us all feel safer on the streets and in our beds and we would be able to pop out and buy an E from our local Chemist. Sounds worth a try. Perhaps a grand national experiment in one country or another. We'll adopt a high tolerance approach to drugs and prostitution, let it run for a while and see what happens. Maybe somewhere like Holland. Then we can see what happens. Oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbalharry Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Legalize most drugs, except those that kill you right off - Give users who wish it treatment instead of prison. This would put a stop to much gang activity (and the violence and rape culture that go with it) at a stroke and make a lot of criminals unemployed - of course they might try to go into the sex trade instead but we would have to have a dedicated police unit to tackle that, paid for with the money raised in taxes on all these legal drugs, and all the money we save on keeping drug users in prison. Acquisitive crime would also most disappear making us all feel safer on the streets and in our beds and we would be able to pop out and buy an E from our local Chemist. Why not. Better than approach now. Which is just to ban anything that feels good or they cant tax or approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Why not. Better than approach now. Which is just to ban anything that feels good or they cant tax or approve. Because of what happened when they tried it in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 What matters is the ingredients. If the chemical make-up of a product has all been approved for human consumption, you don't have a problem. Is everything we eat or are able to eat 'approved for human consumption'?? Do you have to apply to some government body if you're making food to sell?? ---------- Post added 21-01-2016 at 16:49 ---------- Because of what happened when they tried it in Holland. What do you mean tried it in Holland?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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