RJRB Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Car Boot said: If Netflix and Amazon Prime can thrive with a voluntary monthly subscription model, what makes the BBC so inferior that it can't? Do Netflix and Amazon offer free viewing to the poverty stricken elderly? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, RJRB said: Do Netflix and Amazon offer free viewing to the poverty stricken elderly? Of course not. Netflix and Amazon offer 1 months free viewing to all new customers. Try before you buy. Don't like - pay nothing. No knocks at the door. No threatening letters. No court appearances and fines of £1000, unlike the totalitarian BBC. Why doesn't the BBC offer 1 months free viewing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Car Boot said: Netflix and Amazon offer 1 months free viewing to all new customers. Try before you buy. Don't like - pay nothing. No knocks at the door. No threatening letters. No court appearances and fines of £1000, unlike the totalitarian BBC. Why doesn't the BBC offer 1 months free viewing? You make little sense. One month free and then your elderly ,lonely poverty stricken pensioner has to pay for a very limited type of entertainment. 1 hour ago, Car Boot said: I certainly don't trust BBC management to deliver Brexit. I trust BBC management to deliver great pay deals for themselves at the expense of women and the poorest in society. As you are well aware no one expects the BBC management to deliver Brexit. However you have entrusted this task to a group of wealthy upper class,public school educated politicians,and you seem to believe that this will improve the lot of the majority who do not belong to this elite. Dream on. Edited January 28, 2020 by RJRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Car Boot said: Most working class over 75's haven't bought their own homes. Most middle class over 75's who were in non manual jobs have bought their homes. You chose not to answer my question, thats fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, RJRB said: You make little sense. One month free and then your elderly ,lonely poverty stricken pensioner has to pay for a very limited type of entertainment. As you are well aware no one expects the BBC management to deliver Brexit. However you have entrusted this task to a group of wealthy upper class,public school educated politicians,and you seem to believe that this will improve the lot of the majority who do not belong to this elite. Dream on. You made no attempt to answer my question about what makes the BBC inferior to Netflix and Amazon when they can thrive on the voluntary subscription model of funding, while the BBC can only survive by frightening people into paying for its content under threat of a criminal record and a large fine? The BBC is run by a non-diverse group of wealthy upper middle class, public school educated largely males who belong to the elite and are completely out of touch with the majority of people. No Director General has ever been female, or from an ethnic minority. Or lived in a council property. Or been educated at a state school. The BBC is the rich establishment, for the rich establishment, by the rich establishment. 2 minutes ago, El Cid said: You chose not to answer my question, thats fine. I think that most working class over 75 years old have never owned their home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mossway said: But, a Labour Chancellor thought it was a good idea, presumably to buy votes, to give us a free TV licence. Labour wanted to give us free broadband too. I can understand that once we all get the basics free, health, teeeth, eyes, clothing and water. Surely entertainment(TV license) would be the last one on the list? Isnt that why Labour lost some votes, their message was too complicated. They should just campaign for free prescriptions, eye tests, glasses and dentistry. Leave entertainment as optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyhonda Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, El Cid said: But generally speaking, the older generation are more likely to be home owners and have more assets than 20/30 year olds. Agree? And how does this make them able to afford a TV licence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Car Boot said: I think that most working class over 75 years old have never owned their home. https://www.statista.com/statistics/321065/uk-england-home-owners-age-groups/ Do you have more detailed information? A share of 0.7 percent of owner occupiers were between the ages of 16 and 24, whereas a share of 36 percent of owner occupiers were aged 65 and over, a difference of 35.3 percent. 8 hours ago, jonnyhonda said: And how does this make them able to afford a TV licence ? I still pay a mortgage, but its cheaper than paying rent. I will be mortgage free before I am 70. Does that explain it? Edited January 29, 2020 by El Cid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Dear Carboot Suffice it to say that I consider the service offered by the BBC,both radio and TV is far more comprehensive than the offerings of Netflix and Amazon. This is possible because it is a publicly funded service rather than a capitalistic multinational giant . If I want to see fair news reporting then I know of no service to rival the BBC. In no way is the BBC inferior to a Sky,Amazon or Netflix. If it became a subscriber service I would willingly pay the money,but I do not see this as a step forward or of any advantage to the over 70s who are on the breadline (apart from the possible one months free trial that you seem to think is a game changer) Edited January 28, 2020 by RJRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyhonda Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, El Cid said: I still pay a mortgage, but its cheaper than paying rent. I will be mortgage for before I am 70. Does that explain it? No . Owning ones own house and having assets does not in any way give someone the ability to pay anything . Why do you think it would ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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