Mister M Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Absolutelt right Lazarus and its that what annoys so much. Lord Farmer, a hedge-fund boss and Tory donor, said people would consider the allowance ‘modest and even inadequate’ if they knew how hard peers worked. He added that the pay should be increased because attending the House of Lords ‘restricts their earning opportunities elsewhere’. Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/31/peer-says-300-daily-allowance-for-attending-house-of-lords-isnt-enough-5654252/#ixzz3yx3ooPRe The thing what really does annoy is that this guy really believes that an increase is deserved:loopy: Come the revolution....................... Hmmm, that's the standard excuse of the greedy wanting to blackmail others: "Give us some more money, or else we'll leave!" Well bugger off then I'm not standing in your way!! Typically Chief Executives in the public sector earning more than the Prime Minister use this argument all the time to justify their wages: "We can get paid more in the private sector". Or bankers getting mardy when others grumble about their huge bonuses "We'll go overseas where we're paid more".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningman1 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 But they only have to turn up for their daily pittance, swan round for an hour or two then they are off. Not like our eight to twelve hours a day for less than £100. The people who work 12 hours a day for less than 100 mostly lack intelligence, ability and talent. They are the waifs and strays of society. I hardly think it is fair to compare them to Lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 He added that the pay should be increased because attending the House of Lords ‘restricts their earning opportunities elsewhere’.The same can be said of most high-profile public appointments, the jobholders of many of which face the harshest possible interview technique: the ballot box. Which Lords don't. So, errr...prestige and public duty, or greed? Make you choice, Lord Farmer, you can't have your cake and eating it I'm afraid. Typically Chief Executives in the public sector earning more than the Prime Minister use this argument all the time to justify their wages: "We can get paid more in the private sector".For most CEs, I very much doubt that, i.e. that they'd get paid more in the private sector for an equivalent job with all things being equal (responsibilities, targets, perks, HR/security, etc.)... Or bankers getting mardy when others grumble about their huge bonuses "We'll go overseas where we're paid more".......but that is true, and many are doing just that indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The people who work 12 hours a day for less than 100 mostly lack intelligence, ability and talent. They are the waifs and strays of society. I hardly think it is fair to compare them to Lords. Waifs and strays of society, how dare you say that, I had a very skilled job making high class cutlery and I and hundreds of others never earned £100 a day and I am highly intelligent and have ability and talent and I loved my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningman1 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Waifs and strays of society, how dare you say that, I had a very skilled job making high class cutlery and I and hundreds of others never earned £100 a day and I am highly intelligent and have ability and talent and I loved my job. How long ago was this? If it was recent you probably weren't that skilled. £100 a day is below the average earnings. A skilled person would have a higher market value. There is nothing wrong with being at that end of society, someone has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The people who work 12 hours a day for less than 100 mostly lack intelligence, ability and talent. They are the waifs and strays of society. I hardly think it is fair to compare them to Lords. I certainly worked more than 12 hours a day (HGV Driver) and never even got near to £100 per day. The rest of your diatribe is not worthy of comment, I imagine you may be "trolling" a little. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningman1 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I certainly worked more than 12 hours a day (HGV Driver) and never even got near to £100 per day. The rest of your diatribe is not worthy of comment, I imagine you may be "trolling" a little. Angel1. Hardly the job of a trail blazer is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Waifs and strays of society, how dare you say that, I had a very skilled job making high class cutlery and I and hundreds of others never earned £100 a day and I am highly intelligent and have ability and talent and I loved my job. It is interestimg that the very people you appear to despise so much are the folk who kept you in business by buying the things you manufactured. Edited February 2, 2016 by foxy lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How long ago was this? If it was recent you probably weren't that skilled. £100 a day is below the average earnings. A skilled person would have a higher market value. There is nothing wrong with being at that end of society, someone has to be. I was a skilled Cutlery worker and they only paid what was the rate in the trade, average earnings are worked out on astronomically high rates including highly paid jobs like central heating engineers, electricians, bricklayers etc. and in there are the low paid jobs which can only pay rate that goes with the job. You can't demand £100 a day if it's not possible to pay it. What's your job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The people who work 12 hours a day for less than 100 mostly lack intelligence, ability and talent. They are the waifs and strays of society. I hardly think it is fair to compare them to Lords. Bull****! There are lots of people who work very hard for little money, and who do not lack intelligence, ability or talent. No they are not the 'waifs and strays of society'. The average pay in the UK AFAIK is £26,500 gross. Not far off the "£100 a day below the average earnings" you claim in post 15. No the Lords, or Lord Farmer's views aren't representative - thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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