RootsBooster Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) How is this still a thing? Why does it seem to have had a resurgence lately? Are any Sheffield Forummers "anti-vaxers", if so why? Edit: title referring to the MMR vaccine hoax report that caused the original MMR/Autism scare Edited February 8, 2016 by RootsBooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 How is this still a thing? Why does it seem to have had a resurgence lately? Are any Sheffield Forummers "anti-vaxers", if so why? Edit: title referring to the MMR vaccine hoax report that caused the original MMR/Autism scare It's an instructing insight into human psychology, some perceive it to be preferable to do nothing but face an actual risk rather than do something and face a perceived risk. It's almost like they think that they can relieve themselves of any parental responsibility if any thing goes wrong by not acting. For example, it seems they believe that if they consent to an action and get their child inoculated, any harm that they perceive might happen would be their fault. If they take a passive role, and not allow their children to be inoculated then if something goes wrong like their child catching an illness, it could be put down to bad luck, or blamed on nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It's an instructing insight into human psychology, some perceive it to be preferable to do nothing but face an actual risk rather than do something and face a perceived risk. It's almost like they think that they can relieve themselves of any parental responsibility if any thing goes wrong by not acting. For example, it seems they believe that if they consent to an action and get their child inoculated, any harm that they perceive might happen would be their fault. If they take a passive role, and not allow their children to be inoculated then if something goes wrong like their child catching an illness, it could be put down to bad luck, or blamed on nature. That is an excellent response and one I'd not considered. I just thought they were either a) crazy or b) so sceptical of any mainstream media and governments that they genuinely thought the whole thing was a scam to make money for pharmaceuticals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 It's an instructing insight into human psychology, some perceive it to be preferable to do nothing but face an actual risk rather than do something and face a perceived risk. It's almost like they think that they can relieve themselves of any parental responsibility if any thing goes wrong by not acting. For example, it seems they believe that if they consent to an action and get their child inoculated, any harm that they perceive might happen would be their fault. If they take a passive role, and not allow their children to be inoculated then if something goes wrong like their child catching an illness, it could be put down to bad luck, or blamed on nature. I was thinking along these lines but you've articulated it better than I could. During a friend's recent visit his wife disclosed that she is an anti-vaxxer, out of courtesy I didn't take it any further but I would have loved to know what drives such an attitude/belief - to hear an explanation in her own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) That is an excellent response and one I'd not considered. I just thought they were either a) crazy or b) so sceptical of any mainstream media and governments that they genuinely thought the whole thing was a scam to make money for pharmaceuticals. The psychological process I described could be a subconscious one, it may be that many people will not be aware as to why they have a fear of having their children inoculated. So when it comes to them rationalising this subconscious fear, they could well try to blame a scepticism of mainstream media or big pharma. Edited February 8, 2016 by JFKvsNixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andbreathe Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 How is this still a thing? Why does it seem to have had a resurgence lately? Are any Sheffield Forummers "anti-vaxers", if so why? Edit: title referring to the MMR vaccine hoax report that caused the original MMR/Autism scare When you say 'resurgence lately' is there some indication of this to the point where the numbers are scary? I'm thinking in term of perspective btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 An unfortunate title for a science site at this point in history but, http://www.i-sis.org.uk/MMR_Controversy_Reignites.php and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7970315/Man-disabled-by-MMR-vaccine-awarded-90000-after-13-year-fight.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC33 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Well,we had 15 kids collapse recently at a Northampton school after receiving a vaccine. Now I'd say collapsing is a pretty serious adverse reaction. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6889652/Horror-as-up-to-15-kids-COLLAPSE-after-having-jabs-at-school.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It's an instructing insight into human psychology, some perceive it to be preferable to do nothing but face an actual risk rather than do something and face a perceived risk. It's almost like they think that they can relieve themselves of any parental responsibility if any thing goes wrong by not acting. For example, it seems they believe that if they consent to an action and get their child inoculated, any harm that they perceive might happen would be their fault. If they take a passive role, and not allow their children to be inoculated then if something goes wrong like their child catching an illness, it could be put down to bad luck, or blamed on nature. Then again, lots of them chose to avoid the MMR jab because they genuinely thought it might harm their children. Also, remember that many of those who refused the MMR jab weren't anti-vaccine. They were anti-MMR, and, had the vaccines been available individually, they would have allowed their children to have tham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Then again, lots of them chose to avoid the MMR jab because they genuinely thought it might harm their children. Also, remember that many of those who refused the MMR jab weren't anti-vaccine. They were anti-MMR, and, had the vaccines been available individually, they would have allowed their children to have tham. The evidence suggested that it was more risky, and less effective to offer the vaccines singularly. It seemed that for one reason or another parents would rather ignore and go with their gut feeling. Maybe for the reasons I described? It's interesting to note that the single vaccination uptake us far higher than the individual vaccination uptakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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