Anti-vaccine attitudes based on that false claim still exist

[onewheeldave]

I'm with him on SSRIs. But that's a problem with doctor training not "big pharma".

The reason the training of doctors is incorrect is, as Dr Gotzsche mentions in his video, that pharmas are 'involved' in the design/implementation of it.

 

Or, in his own words "“Much of what the drug industry does fulfills the criteria for organized crime in US law......And they behave in many ways like the mafia does, they corrupt everyone they can corrupt, they have bought every type of person, even including ministers of health in some countries…The drug industry buys the professors first, then chiefs of departments, then other chief physicians and so on, they don’t buy junior doctors."

 

 

"Dr Peter Gøtzsche exposes big pharma as organized crime"

 

(1:10 onwards)

[JFKvsNixon]

The reason the training of doctors is incorrect is, as Dr Gotzsche mentions in his video, that pharmas are 'involved' in the design/implementation of it.

 

Or, in his own words "“Much of what the drug industry does fulfills the criteria for organized crime in US law......And they behave in many ways like the mafia does, they corrupt everyone they can corrupt, they have bought every type of person, even including ministers of health in some countries…The drug industry buys the professors first, then chiefs of departments, then other chief physicians and so on, they don’t buy junior doctors."

 

 

"Dr Peter Gøtzsche exposes big pharma as organized crime"

 

(1:10 onwards)

 

You believe the pharma has "bought" the University of Sheffield's Medical School syllabus? You also believe that pharma has bought every consultant working at Sheffield hospitals?

 

It certainly sounds like that you're still shouting as load as possible that the moon is made of cheese, to drown out any evidence that points out the contrary.

Edited April 4, 2016 by JFKvsNixon

[Obelix]

That's as bad as saying that because garages fit performance tyres to cars they are guilty of speeding when the boy racer is driving.

 

---------- Post added 04-04-2016 at 16:02 ----------

 

You believe the pharma has "bought" the University of Sheffield's Medical School syllabus? You also believe that pharma has bought every consultant working at Sheffield hospitals?

 

I genuinely think the does believe that which is why there is no way I'm letting him near my former research group.

[onewheeldave]

You believe the pharma has "bought" the University of Sheffield's Medical School syllabus? You also believe that pharma has bought every consultant working at Sheffield hospitals?

 

No. It was Peter Gotzsche who mentioned pharma buying professors and consultants- he didn't claim it was every consultant, and, didn't specifically mention Sheffield at all.

 

Look, I know you've got a bit of a bone in your teeth at the moment trying to 'win' the argument, but, does it not bother you that the head of the Danish Cochrane foundation, who knows more about the medical research industry than you ever will, is saying, quite bluntly, that the pharmas are buying professors and causing thousands of unecessary deaths?

[Obelix]

Where is it said they are causing thousands of unnecessary deaths?

[onewheeldave]

That's as bad as saying that because garages fit performance tyres to cars they are guilty of speeding when the boy racer is driving.

 

I'd say, if you're going to want a car-based analogy, that it's more akin to a garage supplying red diesel to a driver- then, of course, the garage would be guilty of supplying red diesel.

[Obelix]

Which isn't a crime. I've got a vehicle here full of red diesel at the moment.

[JFKvsNixon]

No. It was Peter Gotzsche who mentioned pharma buying professors and consultants- he didn't claim it was every consultant, and, didn't specifically mention Sheffield at all.

 

Look, I know you've got a bit of a bone in your teeth at the moment trying to 'win' the argument, but, does it not bother you that the head of the Danish Cochrane foundation, who knows more about the medical research industry than you ever will, is saying, quite bluntly, that the pharmas are buying professors and causing thousands of unecessary deaths?

 

I asked you if you believed the claims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onewheeldave]

Which isn't a crime. I've got a vehicle here full of red diesel at the moment.

 

Sorry- cars aren't my strong point. I should have said supplying red diesel to a non-agricultural vehicle or whatever other vehicles are the only ones allowed to use it.

[Obelix]

Sorry- cars aren't my strong point. I should have said supplying red diesel to a non-agricultural vehicle or whatever other vehicles are the only ones allowed to use it.

 

Which STILL isn't a crime.