Child Mental Health Crisis.

[sutty27]

And those people claim you can treat pancreas cancer with vegan diet.

Those people claimed that massage can cure all sorts.

But then those people said it's load of blcks. And they seem to be regulators for those mentioned above.

I'll stick with mainstream medicine and scientific method, thank you.

Fact is we don't know what causes it. Chemical imbalance is outcome of something deeper. Mental disorder is just final manifestation, like blisters with syphilis.

So we don't know root cause, just treat symptoms.

 

The links I posted are mainstream medicine and scientific. The Chemical imbalance myth isn't mainstream or proved by science.

[Orzel]

The links I posted are mainstream medicine and scientific. The Chemical imbalance myth isn't mainstream or proved by science.

 

Yes indeed links you posted are mainstream.

Too bad not mainstream medicine. More like mainstream charlatanry.

Todd B. Kashdan, Ph.D. is [...] professor of psychology

Psychology is not medicine. Some will even not call it science.

More of a educated guess based on observation than scientific method.

Elliot S. Valenstein, PhD, [...] is a professor emeritus of psychology and neuroscience

Neuroscience is not medicine. It is biology. Crosses paths with medicine and chemistry, still not medicine.

Here, have a look at scientific method.

Tons of those papers get pooled together every once in a while and real scientists try to make sense out of it.

Here is a bit from http://www.mentalhealthcare.org.uk

 

Antipsychotic medication, which can help to control the symptoms of psychosis, works by targeting the dopamine system in the brain and dampening its effect. However, antipsychotic medication doesn't work for everyone.

Researchers think other neurotransmitters may also have a role in the development of psychosis and are carrying out studies to try to find out whether this is the case.

 

We know very little in that field, but we keep looking.

We know what neurotransmitters are.

Real scientist have actually traced patterns in brain activity and levels of neurotransmitters associated with mental disorders.

We even have effective treatments based on altering neurotransmitter levels.

Dare to call that myth still? Or not mainstream medicine? Can't see many psychologists effectively applying psychosurgery to people with mental disorders anywhere. Maybe it's NWO conspiracy and they are forced to apply their special brand of genius in secret underground clinics.

[Ted Heath]

1 in 10 schoolchildren have mental health problems. That's a huge number. 75% of children in care, and an incredible 90% of children in detention, have serious mental health problems.

 

Mental health Services are overwhelmed and are unable to cope. Mental health really is the Cinderella of the Health Service, and needs massive investment which it is not getting, in fact Mental Health budgets have been cut to the bone.

 

Waiting lists are long, and people are having to travel from one end of the country to the other to get help. Placing children in hospitals far away from home is exacerbating the problems. Unfortunately, not getting help in the early stages of mental illness can lead to much more serious mental health problems later, in adulthood.

(ITV lunchtime news. 08.02.16)

Cameron of course, talks the talk, but nothing actually happens, the situation is actually getting worse on a daily basis.

What can we do, as parents, grandparents, friends etc. to help ease the situation for our young people?

 

Who would be a politician. The kids you speak of were, in the main born before Cameron came to power, why is it his fault?

 

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Personally I think that a stiff dose of a strong laxative, followed by a good shouting at would cure the majority.

[hyper]

Sorry, but I disagree. Our inderstanding may be getting better, but Children generally seem unhappier all round. They have a lot of pressures that I never had, and are much more worried about the future.

In that case you need to look what has changed over a generation to have caused this instead of hinting that the current government is failing in treating it.

 

If I think about it, I reckon (and its just an opinion) that the biggest change is that everything now hinges on self-image ... be that physical, social, owning possessions ... and a strive to want to be that perfect image, when in reality very, very few have it, even though social media tells us that its the norm. And the more we hang onto social media instead of getting out there and seeing real life, the more we feel disenfranchised from what we think is the norm and depression sets in. Couple that with children and young adults being the most impressionable and you have the perfect storm

[Mister M]

Sorry, but I disagree. Our inderstanding may be getting better, but Children generally seem unhappier all round. They have a lot of pressures that I never had, and are much more worried about the future.

 

That's my impression Anna. Universities, children's charities, education specialists and others regularly publish studies, data and testimonies from children which show that many children are struggling.

 

Is there somes empirical evidence for this that you can point us to?

 

There's this comparative study from the Children's Society (although I'd be first to admit that it's not definitive): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-33984082

 

Is it just possible that you are suffering from depression? That makes you see doom and gloom all around.

Child labour is past, welfare is certainly better. Education might be worst in Europe, still better than before. Children never had it better.

 

I know that Anna has said on previous threads that she was a teacher, that gives her an insight into children's well being, and how it's changed over the years.

Some children, from the outside, seemingly 'have it all' and have never had it better, yet those are the children that are taking medication, self harming, developing eating disorders or worse.

I'm not sure that welfare, in it's broadest sense, is better. Yes there maybe tax credits, and the like. But when you throw into the mix issues like child sexual exploitation, online bullying, family break ups, decline in extended family involvement, rising obesity, and an insecure future in terms of an unsteady labour market then things don't look so rosy

[sutty27]

Yes indeed links you posted are mainstream.

Too bad not mainstream medicine. More like mainstream charlatanry.

Todd B. Kashdan, Ph.D. is [...] professor of psychology

Psychology is not medicine. Some will even not call it science.

More of a educated guess based on observation than scientific method.

Elliot S. Valenstein, PhD, [...] is a professor emeritus of psychology and neuroscience

Neuroscience is not medicine. It is biology. Crosses paths with medicine and chemistry, still not medicine.

Here, have a look at scientific method.

Tons of those papers get pooled together every once in a while and real scientists try to make sense out of it.

Here is a bit from http://www.mentalhealthcare.org.uk

 

 

 

We know very little in that field, but we keep looking.

We know what neurotransmitters are.

Real scientist have actually traced patterns in brain activity and levels of neurotransmitters associated with mental disorders.

We even have effective treatments based on altering neurotransmitter levels.

Dare to call that myth still? Or not mainstream medicine? Can't see many psychologists effectively applying psychosurgery to people with mental disorders anywhere. Maybe it's NWO conspiracy and they are forced to apply their special brand of genius in secret underground clinics.

 

From your link.

 

Researchers think there are many different factors that may contribute to the development of psychotic symptoms experienced by people who have one of these mental illnesses. Some of the factors are genetic, and many are 'environmental' – stressful life events, complications at birth, drug use, for example. However, researchers don't yet understand how all the potentially contributing factors interact, and what actually happens in the brain and therefore continue to study candidate factors and try to find out more about them.

 

 

It agrees with the information I provided, which part of it do you think proves the point you made that Depression, bipolar, mania, schizophrenia are caused by chemical imbalance in brain?

[Anna B]

Who would be a politician. The kids you speak of were, in the main born before Cameron came to power, why is it his fault?

 

 

Cameron has cut funding drastically for mental Health services.

 

It's been cut by £600 million since 2010.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Anna B

[Eric Arthur]

Cameron has cut funding drastically for mental Health services since 2010.

 

I heard it had been cut by 80% but not sure.

 

I can't believe that you would believe that.

[Anna B]

I can't believe that you would believe that.

 

As you see, I have altered my post beforeyou posted. I also thought it was high and on looking it up the figure was 8%. I misheard.

However statistics depend on the numbers eg. If 1 increases to 2 it's gone up by 100% and so on, so not necessarily the best measure,unless you have the figures.

 

Either way at a time when mental health appears to be deteriorating, cuts are the last thing you need.

[sutty27]

As you see, I have altered my post beforeyou posted. I also thought it was high and on looking it up the figure was 8%. I misheard.

However statistics depend on the numbers eg. If 1 increases to 2 it's gone up by 100% and so on, so not necessarily the best measure,unless you have the figures.

 

Either way at a time when mental health appears to be deteriorating, cuts are the last thing you need.

 

Some numbers here.

 

2009/2010 £11.45bn

2012/2013 £11.48bn

2013/2014 £11.36bn

2014/2015 £11.66bn

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32596748

She also pointed to figures showing that overall mental health spending had actually risen from £11.36bn in 2013-14 to £11.66bn last year, which amounts to a small rise once inflation is taken into account.

 

http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/data-and-charts/nhs-spending-top-three-disease-categories-england

 

This chart shows NHS spending in England on the largest three programme budgeting disease categories between 2003/04 and 2012/13, in real terms.

 

The largest single category of NHS expenditure is mental health, which includes patients with dementia.

 

The next largest disease categories of NHS spending are: problems with circulation (relating to the heart, and the circulation of blood in central and peripheral vessels); and cancers and tumours (including those suspected of having, or at risk of developing, cancer).

 

Between 2011/12 and 2012/13, spending on mental illness remained flat, while spending on problems of circulation has seen a fall of 1.4 per cent.

 

Expenditure on cancers and tumours has increased from £5.7 to £5.8 billion in the same period, an increase of 2.2 per cent in real terms.