poppet2 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/06/pay-stay-rules-families-council-homes-private-sector-rent But they will just rent in the private sector and claim housing benefit to pay the private landlord's high rents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bargepole23 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/06/pay-stay-rules-families-council-homes-private-sector-rent But they will just rent in the private sector and claim housing benefit to pay the private landlord's high rents! Do people at those income levels get housing benefit? Honest question because I've no idea, but if asked I would say they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/06/pay-stay-rules-families-council-homes-private-sector-rent But they will just rent in the private sector and claim housing benefit to pay the private landlord's high rents! But they can't as housing benefit is restricted and the people they are targeting earn just to much to claim housing benefit in all but edge cases. Initially I struggled to see what was wrong with this, until I saw that the £30k per annum I thought was per person is actually per household, so someone earning just £15k a year would be forced into paying full rent...a bit torn here. I do think that as we have a massive shortage of council properties that we should give to the most needy first (and we do in general) but equally there will be many people doing critical work (police, fireman, nurses, teachers etc) that would potentially fall foul of this policy. Not sure I want a society split by 'job type' either. So after that pontificating, I'm still not sure whether I agree or not! Best outcome if to have considerable more council housing and then this wouldn't be an issue but I'm not a total dreamer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/06/pay-stay-rules-families-council-homes-private-sector-rent But they will just rent in the private sector and claim housing benefit to pay the private landlord's high rents! They aren't eligible for HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Do people at those income levels get housing benefit? Honest question because I've no idea, but if asked I would say they don't. Scenario could mean each person earns £20k each. Family household of £40k in London means lose council house or pay equivalent of market rent for same number of bedroom property. That means couple earning £20k each before tax. By the time all bills are paid and children looked after, not much change out of that. Private rents in London are extortionate compared to Sheffield, which is why people get more housing benefit, £400 a week HB for 4 bed room accomodation. Edited February 8, 2016 by poppet2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The basic principle is ok but having a cut off rather than a taper will just lead to lots of people earning £29,999.99 pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little malc Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 the principle is sound provided the cut off point is upped to about £40,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 the principle is sound provided the cut off point is upped to about £40,000 why is it principle sound? why shouldn't council housing be available to anyone who wants it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 why is it principle sound? why shouldn't council housing be available to anyone who wants it? Because it's meant to be for people who can't afford unsubsidised housing, for ovbious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 So after that pontificating, I'm still not sure whether I agree or not! Best outcome if to have considerable more council housing and then this wouldn't be an issue but I'm not a total dreamer... If richer people like their house/area, they will not pay a higher rent, they will just buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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