dangerousedd Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 When Tim Cook is wearing his orange suit in the exercise yard, will he be likely to change his stance on this.:hihi: I'm sure this is only the start of the legal pressure that will be brought to bear on apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I find I support Apple over this matter but considering much tax they avoid I won't be convinced they're the good guys. I am surprised the Americans don't have some tech bod who can take a run at it. They were my first thoughts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I don't see that we can say the spooks are entitled to access terrorists data whether in hard or electronic form whereever it is, err except on certain iphones where it's not allowed to be touched. Apple need to get cracking on how to open the phne up and stop being so bloody obstinate. And given on their new models all the FBI have to do is chop off johny jihads thumb before they stick him in the ground and freeze it and they have all the access they want it's a legacy issue anyway so not sure why they are making such a fuss. Why? It's nothing to do with Apple. The Govt have a right to access the data sure. They don't have the right to compel a disinterested third party to assist them. Certainly they don't have the right to require Apple to circumvent legal protections that have been placed on the phone - even assuming it's possible. It's like when the police want entry to a building. They don't demand that Yale come and make the lock undo at their expense. They pony up with a battering ram. Why should Apple be required to force entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Afzal Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Fair point Obelix. The USA is not N Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Why? It's nothing to do with Apple. The Govt have a right to access the data sure. They don't have the right to compel a disinterested third party to assist them. Certainly they don't have the right to require Apple to circumvent legal protections that have been placed on the phone - even assuming it's possible. It's like when the police want entry to a building. They don't demand that Yale come and make the lock undo at their expense. They pony up with a battering ram. Why should Apple be required to force entry? Apple don't have to open the door. They can wait for the battering ram if they like. But that ram will open all their phones not just court sanctioned ones so they would be utter belters not to comply and cooperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 And hows that ram going to do that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 And hows that ram going to do that then? That's down to the FBI. And the NSA. And the CIA. Not people I'd like to make enemies of tbh if I were an overpriced bunch of nerdy arrogant jackasses with shrinking market share. Posted from my annoying overpriced iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 It's not down to any of them. It's down to the US courts. Who are usually fairly sensible all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 It's not down to any of them. It's down to the US courts. Who are usually fairly sensible all things considered. And while the courts are busy buggering about John Q Nerdy on the design team is informed that nice young girl he met yesterday who was so interested in the insubstantial contents of his pants is in fact 13 and he's of to Joliett as a nonce unless he works on the hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 It's a good decision. Apple shouldn't be handing over their customers details to the US Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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