Stoned Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Do you think that Obelix would have memorised the registration number whilst nursing his broken arm? More likely it wouldn't have helped to identify the cyclists at all. Witnesses could have seen it. Cars with dash cams could have seen it and with a reg plate makes the person easier to find. More likely it would have given Obelix a fighting chance at getting some justice and or recompense for his injuries and possible loss of earnings. Surely that would be a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 He may not have had to, if there were eyewitnesses/dashcams/CCTV around. You'd rely on the same things if it was a car hit and run. True, you would. So I guess my point is that identifiers do not stop hit and runs, and in many cases there are no cameras or witnesses (quick enough to memorise the ID). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 True, you would. So I guess my point is that identifiers do not stop hit and runs, and in many cases there are no cameras or witnesses (quick enough to memorise the ID). Identifiers dont stop motorbike riders, car or van drivers from breaking the law either, it just makes it possible to trace them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Sometimes, but agreed in principle yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Identifiers dont stop motorbike riders, car or van drivers from breaking the law either, it just makes it possible to trace them No it doesn't. It makes it possible to identify a vehicle, not who committed a crime. Vehicle registration is for revenue protection purposes, it is very obviously not for crime prevention because it doesn't prevent crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No it doesn't. It makes it possible to identify a vehicle, not who committed a crime. Vehicle registration is for revenue protection purposes, it is very obviously not for crime prevention because it doesn't prevent crime. No one is talking prevention. You cant prevent morons doing what morons do. What you can do is have a way of tracing the vehicle. If you think this is a daft idea then go and talk to someone who has lost a loved one in a hit and run and ask them if being able to identify the vehicle involved is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 True, you would. So I guess my point is that identifiers do not stop hit and runs, and in many cases there are no cameras or witnesses (quick enough to memorise the ID). ...which would also apply with cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Do you think that Obelix would have memorised the registration number whilst nursing his broken arm? More likely it wouldn't have helped to identify the cyclists at all. No but a description is all that is needed. Then the CCTV network can be used to find the cyclists elsewhere on the surrounding roads. A policeman/woman can visit the cyclist and if they deny it, they can be formally identified by Oblix if required. Plus other road users could also have had the opportunity to take down details and provide them to the police. Even partial plate details can be used if the system is national, it's easy to narrow down the search to all cyclists with ABC .... on their plate in the vicinity. Currently all many can so is describe a cyclist dressed top to to a in spandex riding a bike made out of their own self importance did X or Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No one is talking prevention. You cant prevent morons doing what morons do. What you can do is have a way of tracing the vehicle. If you think this is a daft idea then go and talk to someone who has lost a loved one in a hit and run and ask them if being able to identify the vehicle involved is a good thing. You'll be first in line for a tabard with your personal ID number on it that you can wear every time you leave the house then. It won't stop you from attacking anyone but somebody might catch your tabard number as you run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Tabards for everyone who's in the city centre after 7pm. We all know that most violence occurs in city centres when people have been drinking, and ID tabards would certainly make it easier to prosecute such people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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