Halibut Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 It works elsewhere without issue. The problem we had was Labour tried to impose biometric information that was a step too far. The cost was also a huge factor and if they were given away free, like your NI card, I think we would have them in our wallets today. So what? It wouldn't work here, there'd be massive civil disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 No, but I do belive ID cards are a useful tool. What useful task would you put your useful tool to work on? If there's a need for identification the wearing of a fully visible ID number would be even more effective at achieving those tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 One of the traits of fascism is authoritarian government where the people are accountable to the ruling regime instead of the ruling regime being accountable to the people. I don't agree with Halibut on much but on this I do... any government forcing people to 'wear' an ID number would be behaving in a fascist way. I am still curious... what problem(s) do people think the wearing of ID numbers would solve? It would make it much easier to figure out the identity of criminals. CCTV would most likely catch the criminal behaviour and looking up the ID number would then be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 It would make it much easier to figure out the identity of criminals. CCTV would most likely catch the criminal behaviour and looking up the ID number would then be easy. I think criminals would just hide the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I think criminals would just hide the number. And just like hiding a number plate they would be breaking the law so could face arrest even before they break another law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 And just like hiding a number plate they would be breaking the law so could face arrest even before they break another law. How sweet. it would encourage them to obey the law even more if Stone Island made kop chic ID tabards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Couldn't we ban anything that's illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 And just like hiding a number plate they would be breaking the law so could face arrest even before they break another law. But you wouldn't know who they are or where to find them would you? You are no better off than you are now. The really problem with the idea is that civil disobedience would render the scheme useless. There would be millions of people like me that would simple refuse to take part and that is too many people to police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 But you wouldn't know who they are or where to find them would you? You are no better off than you are now. The really problem with the idea is that civil disobedience would render the scheme useless. There would be millions of people like me that would simple refuse to take part and that is too many people to police. With the amount of CCTV in the country it wouldn't take long for them to be found, police cars are fitted with cameras that see every car they pass and anything dodgy results in the driver being stopped. The police would have to arrest everyone breaking the law just enough to make others think twice about breaking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 With the amount of CCTV in the country it wouldn't take long for them to be found, police cars are fitted with cameras that see every car they pass and anything dodgy results in the driver being stopped. The police would have to arrest everyone breaking the law just enough to make others think twice about breaking it. It is still exactly the same situation as you have now... the 'number wearing' has achieved nothing. It would be imposed as successfully as the poll tax was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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