Should everyone have to wear an identification number?

[GLASGOWOODS]

Yes may be, but you are quite a tough man who can stand up for himself and probably isn't intimidated by an internet bully. Not everyone is like you.

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying i'm a tough man. I can look after myself and stand up to bullys both off and on-line. Just the way i were brought up.

 

The forum needs a good variation of charactors it's what makes it all interesting.

 

As you say, a lot of people don't like confrontation on here, (hence the reason why there's hundreds on-line, who don't participate in topics). I've been sent on a 'naughty step holiday' several times, due standing up for myself and others on here regarding the grammar police bullys.

 

Anyhow, back on topic....I wouldn't have a problem with carrying an ID card, or random checks. It would bag quite a few illegals,criminals etc.

[Zamo]

I am obviously dense and would like you to explain how this is a fascist idea. The fact that it has been used by fascists before does not make it a fascist idea, just so you know.

 

One of the traits of fascism is authoritarian government where the people are accountable to the ruling regime instead of the ruling regime being accountable to the people. I don't agree with Halibut on much but on this I do... any government forcing people to 'wear' an ID number would be behaving in a fascist way.

 

I am still curious... what problem(s) do people think the wearing of ID numbers would solve?

[JFKvsNixon]

One of the traits of fascism is authoritarian government where the people are accountable to the ruling regime instead of the ruling regime being accountable to the people. I don't agree with Halibut on much but on this I do... any government forcing people to 'wear' an ID number would be behaving in a fascist way.

 

I am still curious... what problem(s) do people think the wearing of ID numbers would solve?

 

I think that this thread is a follow on thread from another one, where it was suggested that cyclists should be forced to wear a visible ID number.

[Zamo]

I think that this thread is a follow on thread from another one, where it was suggested that cyclists should be forced to wear a visible ID number.

 

I didn't bother reading that thread as that topic has been done to death dozens of times. Same arguments I guess and the same problem... it is a 'solution' that will result in a negative return on investment.

[petemcewan]

As Loob as pointed out, the majority of us have a NI (Known in some circles as a, "Personal Account Number") by which we can be identified.

The usual political argument put up against such measures, is that personal privacy and personal details have to be protected from an intrusive -and authoritarian- State. That kind of argument is maintained by some; even in spite of the fact that today's society is replete with people's personals details ,that are harvested by all kinds of government and non government agencies.

I'm personally against having to display in public, my NI number -or any other badge showing personal details.

Edited February 20, 2016 by petemcewan

[Berberis]

If everyone had a government issued ID number displayed on their person every time that they left the house, maybe on a tabard, or a patch, or a big badge would it eliminate wrongdoing?

 

No, but I do belive ID cards are a useful tool. Just Labour screwed up their introduction and made them a political football. iD cards are used across the EU without problem. In fact you can use them to cross borders also.

[Zamo]

No, but I do belive ID cards are a useful tool. Just Labour screwed up their introduction and made them a political football. iD cards are used across the EU without problem. In fact you can use them to cross borders also.

 

Civil disobedience by millions would render such a scheme useless and as such any attempt to impose it would be a catastrophic waste of time and money.

[Berberis]

Civil disobedience by millions would render such a scheme useless and as such any attempt to impose it would be a catastrophic waste of time and money.

 

It works elsewhere without issue. The problem we had was Labour tried to impose biometric information that was a step too far. The cost was also a huge factor and if they were given away free, like your NI card, I think we would have them in our wallets today.

[runningman1]

One of the traits of fascism is authoritarian government where the people are accountable to the ruling regime instead of the ruling regime being accountable to the people. I don't agree with Halibut on much but on this I do... any government forcing people to 'wear' an ID number would be behaving in a fascist way.

 

I am still curious... what problem(s) do people think the wearing of ID numbers would solve?

 

I disagree as it is not nationalistic, which is a key requirement of fascism. It is authoritarian, but not fascist.

 

I don't think the wearing of id numbers would solve anything.

[Zamo]

I disagree as it is not nationalistic, which is a key requirement of fascism. It is authoritarian, but not fascist.

 

I don't think the wearing of id numbers would solve anything.

 

It doesn't have to tick every box under the definition on fascism for it to be a fascist trait.

 

Anyway, it is all semantics. The main thing is that we agree that wearing ID numbers would not solve anything.