Eric Arthur Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The Cambridge students unions are at it again and the Jesus College union has just voted unanimously to send the Benin Bronze **** back to where Brits looted it from while sorting out a colonial problem in the 1890's. I'm not sure that sins of the past should be judged by the standards of today but this item was looted from a despotic African king who dealt in slaves and torture and wasn't above a bit of looting from the people he conquered. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1670294.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The Cambridge students unions are at it again and the Jesus College union has just voted unanimously to send the Benin Bronze **** back to where Brits looted it from while sorting out a colonial problem in the 1890's. I'm not sure that sins of the past should be judged by the standards of today but this item was looted from a despotic African king who dealt in slaves and torture and wasn't above a bit of looting from the people he conquered. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1670294.ece Give it them back, it will be on eBay within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 That'll just end up in the garden of whatever corrupt public official gets their hands on it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horribleblob Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Cambridge students unions are at it again and the Jesus College union has just voted unanimously to send the Benin Bronze **** back to where Brits looted it from while sorting out a colonial problem in the 1890's. I'm not sure that sins of the past should be judged by the standards of today but this item was looted from a despotic African king who dealt in slaves and torture and wasn't above a bit of looting from the people he conquered. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1670294.ece Cambridge … again? I'm sure you'll recall that the Rhodes' statue debate involved Oriel College, Oxford. Or perhaps you're thinking of another incident, Eric? Jesus College (Cambridge) is more than wealthy enough to have a flawless replica bronze made, and Benin is now considered to be one of the most stable democracies in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andbreathe Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Cambridge … again? I'm sure you'll recall that the Rhodes' statue debate involved Oriel College, Oxford. Or perhaps you're thinking of another incident, Eric? Jesus College (Cambridge) is more than wealthy enough to have a flawless replica bronze made, and Benin is now considered to be one of the most stable democracies in Africa. I'm sure I read that Eric studied at Cambridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 ....... andBenin is now considered to be one of the most stable democracies in Africa. Why not read before pontificating? The bronze in question is from the city of Benin, Nigeria .... not the country of Benin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLAR Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I have no opinion on the fate of the bronze ****. I am, however, finding the swear filter rather amusing. In a juvenile sort of a way:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) The topic title has been changed, by a moderator I assume. It was originally a direct literary reference from Summon My Ehi to Ugbine By Okpame Oronsaye in which he confirms the ****'s provenance thus In the Twenty Sixth Annual Report of Jesus College Cambridge, in July 1930, it was acknowledged that George William Neville, who took part in the Benin Punative Expedition, presented to the college 'a splendid bronze co ck of ancient native workmanship which he brought back to England.' There is historical revisionism afoot on Sheffield Forum as well as at Jesus. I can't imagine that anyone is offended at the correct use of the word co ck but somebody saw fit to replace it with a Puritanical Americanism and lost the context. This is the same type of low brow misunderstanding leading scholars to their belief that they should be history instead of studying and understanding history. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=81BzCwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT60&ots=vSRif_11td&dq=Splendid%20Bronze%20cock&pg=PT60#v=onepage&q=Splendid%20Bronze%20cock&f=false ---------- Post added 22-02-2016 at 20:28 ---------- Why not read before pontificating? The bronze in question is from the city of Benin, Nigeria .... not the country of Benin. Benin was a tribal empire specialising in slavery and the evil that goes with it. We wrote them a treaty of sorts to end it which the emporer may or may not have signed so we sent a civilian party to sort it out. They were murdered on arrival. So Britain responded on the way you would expect in the 1890's by sending the Benin Punative Expedition which did what the name suggests. They eliminated the Benin Empire, killed their leaders and soldiers, and took valuables as recompense for having to travel thousands of miles to administer Victorian justice. Edited February 22, 2016 by Eric Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Oba actually escaped the attack, was later captured and exiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Oba actually escaped the attack, was later captured and exiled. Just like the ****. One can only hope that the Sheffield Forum Topic Title Titivators will return to the scene of their crime and restitute the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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