runningman1 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Rubbish. You cannot believe everything that it says in the Bible, simply because some of it contradicts other parts of it. So every Christian cherrypicks what parts they are going to follow, and how strictly that they are going to follow it. I've met plenty of Christians who would reject strongly the notion that homosexuality was an abomination. God clearly says it is an abomination and at no point did Jesus refute this. I find it odd that someone who disagrees with God and ignores what he said can call themselves a Christian. They are a business. If they want to put their misguided views on homosexuality first, that's fine. Don't run a business. Misguided in whose opinion? His opinion on homosexuality is guided by God. What better guide for a belief can there be for someone gulliable enough to believe in the highest level wizard that has ever existed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'm intolerant of people who think they don't have to abide by the rules that I, as a small business and every other B&B, have to. What makes them so special? They are just a normal Christian couple who followed their religious beliefs and suffered as a consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I would be happy for the rules to be changed. They can exclude who they like on the proviso that they are required to put a sign on the front door and their website outlining their religious and moral beliefs. Do you think that might hep them to change their beliefs all by themselves? I could live with that, I think they should also list on their sign the groups of people they will refuse to serve, then we can avoid any business that acts in a way that infringes our moral beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 They are just a normal Christian couple who followed their religious beliefs and suffered as a consequence. Horse crap. They were forcing their so called beliefs on others. Where exactly in their "religious beliefs" does it say that people who are homosexual should be refused accommodation. Does that apply to people of differing faiths or non faith too? Where exactly in the bible does it say the words "homosexuality is wrong and thus persons of that sexual orientation should be refused service" Where exactly in any part of Christian teachings does it say that so called "sinners" should be excluded a right to live their lives the same as any other citizen by god WITHOUT tolerance and forgiveness. Its a fairy tale which is INTERPRETED and PRACTICED a million different ways by hundreds of different types of "Christian" churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I could live with that, I think they should also list on their sign the groups of people they will refuse to serve, then we can avoid any business that acts in a way that infringes our moral beliefs. I'd go with that. If people want freedom of speech and choice they need to stand by it and we can make a reciprocal decision to patronise them or not. Some kind of standard sign that they can tick off appropriate barred customers. NO GAYS NO MUSLIMS NO BLACKS NO JEWS NO DISABLED NO WHITES NO IRISH NO GYPSIES NO CHINESE NO WELSH NO COCKNEYS NO BIGOTS NO BLADES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Horse crap. They were forcing their so called beliefs on others. Where exactly in their "religious beliefs" does it say that people who are homosexual should be refused accommodation. Does that apply to people of differing faiths or non faith too? Where exactly in the bible does it say the words "homosexuality is wrong and thus persons of that sexual orientation should be refused service" Where exactly in any part of Christian teachings does it say that so called "sinners" should be excluded a right to live their lives the same as any other citizen by god WITHOUT tolerance and forgiveness. Its a fairy tale which is INTERPRETED and PRACTICED a million different ways by hundreds of different types of "Christian" churches. In our opinion it is but in their it isn't, you don't want them to force their beliefs onto you but you appear happy to force yours on to them. ---------- Post added 01-03-2016 at 20:30 ---------- I'd go with that. If people want freedom of speech and choice they need to stand by it and we can make a reciprocal decision to patronise them or not. Some kind of standard sign that they can tick off appropriate barred customers. NO GAYS NO MUSLIMS NO BLACKS NO JEWS NO DISABLED NO WHITES NO IRISH NO GYPSIES NO CHINESE NO WELSH NO COCKNEYS NO BIGOTS NO BLADES Yes that would work ,a self regulating system in which the consumer decides which business survive and which fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Horse crap. They were forcing their so called beliefs on others. Where exactly in their "religious beliefs" does it say that people who are homosexual should be refused accommodation. Does that apply to people of differing faiths or non faith too? Where exactly in the bible does it say the words "homosexuality is wrong and thus persons of that sexual orientation should be refused service" Where exactly in any part of Christian teachings does it say that so called "sinners" should be excluded a right to live their lives the same as any other citizen by god WITHOUT tolerance and forgiveness. Its a fairy tale which is INTERPRETED and PRACTICED a million different ways by hundreds of different types of "Christian" churches. You clearly are not familiar with the case. The elderly Christian couple did not allow non married couples to share a room in their small Guest House. It was only the gay couple who complained and made a fuss. The incident happened before gay marriage was legalised. You clearly are intolerant about people who follow the Christian religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 You clearly are intolerant about people who follow the Christian religion Don't worry, you eventually get used to seeing it on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) You clearly are not familiar with the case. The elderly Christian couple did not allow non married couples to share a room in their small Guest House. It was only the gay couple who complained and made a fuss. The incident happened before gay marriage was legalised. You clearly are intolerant about people who follow the Christian religion I am intolerant of people who deliberately and maliciously use it as some tool to prejudice others and deny access to their services. Anyone is entitled to believe in whatever they want, they can have faith in whichever spirit they desire and practice it in such a way that they wish BUT they have no right to force that position on others OR deny others their rights to live freely when they CHOOSE to provide a public service. As for your clarification, the fact that these people refused non married couples to share a room is even worse. What decade do they think they live in. Not fit to be running a business if they are going to have outdated and ridiculous prejudices like that. Wonder if Mr and Mrs Moralistic would have allowed Mary to stay in the stables. After all, woman turns up in the middle of the night pregnant by someone other than her husband and being followed by three male strangers who gather around her and are present at the birth! Oh dear. Quick, someone inform the Daily Mail. Edited March 1, 2016 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'm intolerant of people who think they don't have to abide by the rules that I, as a small business and every other B&B, have to. What makes them so special? Not much. Which is why they went out of business a couple of years ago. Apparently former guests of the Christian B&B left some of their experiences on Trip Advisor: -'Looks good on the website, but extremely disappointment. -'I am Christian but that's not the reason I went there. But I felt the place had a terrible atmosphere'. -'I am vegetarian and there was a very limited menu. I felt like I committed a crime when I mentioned I was vegetarian'. -'The look I received from woman could kill you'. 'The room was cramped, not particularly clean and smelled strange, it was also cold and damp. -'I really don't like the thought of religion being forced down my throat whilst on holiday/taking a short break. I wanted to enjoy my time but I felt like I was a burden to this hotel not a guest'. -'It's a real shame because it could be a lot better if the rooms were cleaner/up to date and fresh and the people running the hotel more hospitable.' -'Had a most disappointing three day stay here and could not wait to get out everywhere is so old and dated and really shabby. -'It throws religion in your face, which you don't need when stopping at a hotel. -'The breakfast is of very poor quality, which just about sums up the rest of the hotel. Poor!' -'B&B owners are very fusty, much like their B&B'. Oh dear. How sad. But never mind. ---------- Post added 01-03-2016 at 21:06 ---------- They are just a normal Christian couple who followed their religious beliefs and suffered as a consequence. I think they suffered because they're lousy hosts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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