sutty27 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Religion is not LAW. No its a set of beliefs which are probably different to mine and yours, you don't think they should have the right to force their beliefs onto others, given that you hold such a position why are you happy to force your beliefs onto them. ---------- Post added 01-03-2016 at 21:38 ---------- No the people elect members of parliament and a government is formed who create laws. The couple could've gone to the ECHR, not sure how much good it would've done them.... But I think you're tying yourself up in knots - I don't think it's that complicated. So you agree 100% with everything the elected government does and you never question the decisions they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Religion is not LAW. I have asked four times now - Where exactly in the bible does it say that homosexuals can be discriminated against and refused access to a service by a business. Where exactly in any Christian text does it categorically say that these "sinners" must be persecuted without tolerance and forgiveness. That is what law is. You will.... You will not... It is permitted to... It is forbidden to..... A clear set of rules. Christian text is an INTERPRETATION based on stories from a multitude of witnesses and gospels. Its not set in stone and not even read the same way by their own mouthpieces. How can you possibly compare it to a legal statute. While you were busy looking for references to homosexuality, you must have missed the bits which mention The Ten Commandments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Of course it has. Being at uni is a bit like being at work in some ways. There is a code of conduct etc.. and just like at work you can be disciplined for breaching it So a private business has a completely unaccountable veto on who may be eligible for qualifications from a uni needed to enter a public sector job neither party set the entry stamdards for? And you think thats fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 No its a set of beliefs which are probably different to mine and yours, you don't think they should have the right to force their beliefs onto others, given that you hold such a position why are you happy to force your beliefs onto them. ---------- Post added 01-03-2016 at 21:38 ---------- So you agree 100% with everything the elected government does and you never question the decisions they make. No, I never said that I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 For the FINAL TIME!! They BELEIVE that homosexuality is wrong. They are entitled to believe that. WHY does that belief allow them to exclude gay people from staying in their hotel accommodation? Those gay people are not forcing them to join in with their sexual practices are they? They are staying in a bloody hotel room. IF the bible does say that homosexuality is wrong. So what? The bible DOES NOT say that homosexuals should be excluded from your PUBLIC SERVICES Seriously, how hard is this concept to understand. Jesus, somebody get me a brick wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 So a private business has a completely unaccountable veto on who may be eligible for qualifications from a uni needed to enter a public sector job neither party set the entry stamdards for? And you think thats fine? A bit like the NMC in regards to student nurses and midwives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) While you were busy looking for references to homosexuality, you must have missed the bits which mention The Ten Commandments. Oh glory be. I was just waiting for someone to bring this up. Thou shalt have no other gods before me Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy Honour thy father and thy mother Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour (neighbour's house) Thou shalt not covet (neighbour's wife) Thou shalt not covet (neighbour's servants, animals, or anything else) Nothing about homos and hotel rooms in there. Neither are they a defined set of statues considering there has been significant references to killing in the same texts. I seem to remember a quite famous religious figure was killed. Edited March 1, 2016 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 A bit like the NMC in regards to student nurses and midwives? Exactly. Why do we allow these private mafias to exert such control over taxpayer funded professions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Exactly. Why do we allow these private mafias to exert such control over taxpayer funded professions? Did you know it is illegal to practice as a staff nurse or a midwife unless you are on the NMC register, and to be on that register to have to abide by their code of conduct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 No, I never said that I did You implied it when you said, No the people elect members of parliament and a government is formed who create laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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