I1L2T3 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 So why not have a go at, say, Wayne Rooney? Or is it because he's a 'working class hero'? Someone like Fred Goodwin will have put in a lot more hours, a lot more study and earned a lot less money, than someone like Wayne Rooney. And I'm not "defending" either. Fred Goodwin is a blummin' awful choice for somebody to put on a podium. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Fred Goodwin is a blummin' awful choice for somebody to put on a podium. Weird. I'm not putting him up on a podium, I'm highlighting double standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Fred Goodwin is a blummin' awful choice for somebody to put on a podium. Weird. Plus Wayne Rooney wasn't paid a pension from public money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Wayne Rooney isn't paid from the public purse The banks were...keep up Some banks were, not all, and even then the majority of Fred Goodwin's career and earnings were from the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Some banks were, not all, and even then the majority of Fred Goodwin's career and earnings were from the private sector. Great...so he gets his pension from the age of 50, and everyone else has to wait until their dead on their knees. Great...cheers..all in it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm not putting him up on a podium, I'm highlighting double standards. You were trying to point out that we should be as angry with footballers as we are with bankers. Ridiculous. Utterly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Plus Wayne Rooney wasn't paid a pension from public money. And if the papers were right he also gave jobs to a couple of old women. Or vice versa;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Taxman Spot on . Today, on World At One , a pundit was predicting a world in which retirement is a thing of the past for most working people -because we are "all living longer". There are many people working long hours and getting in return a low wage . It's unbelievable that anyone can defend Fred Godwin. In today's society the gap between rich and poor has grown enormously.Now the plan is to make people work into their decrepitude . Well they would say that wouldn't they? They have to try and conjure up some kind of justification, and they know if they say it often enough, some people will repeat it, and it will become a 'fact' that people no longer question or even think about. This is what the Conservatives are good at and Cameron is the master. Just listen to him on PMs questions to see how many times he can get in a mantra. He is now so practised he has one for every occasion. They just drip off his tongue without even having to engage brain, much much easier than having to answer those pesky questions. But give credit where it's due, he does have a real talent for making it sound authoratative and with conviction. So let's imagine he tells the truth for once: "We're going to make you all work longer because the bankers have bankrupted the country, but we're not going to send them to prison for criminal behaviour, we're going to let them continue to get their huge bonuses, tell us what to do, and maybe even let them do it all over again. So you lot can just shut up and take it up the a*** because there's nothing you can do about it is there. Get back to work!..." Not going to happen is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 You were trying to point out that we should be as angry with footballers as we are with bankers. Ridiculous. Utterly so. Only one problem with footballers, they earn far too much brass and contribute little to the economy of the Nation. Although with the amount of brass they "earn" I cannot see any of them having to worry about a couple of hundred quid a week pension. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) ECC, It's getting off topic. However, Goodwin was the CEO . He carried responsibility. The buck stops with him. He wasn't selected as some fall guy. He cocked it up. He may not have "brought the country down". But he contributed royally to the banking disaster. I don't care about his background. What I do care about is that he was in a class of overpaid CEOs who have been handsomely paid over the years for messing up . He messed up so well that he was stripped of his knighthood. He only lost half of his pension. He got off pretty lightly IMO. He should have been banged up . The CEO carries the "can". The CEO makes policy decisions and oversees their implementation. Fred Goodwin was to blame. "It was Fred that done it"-not the gnomes of Zurich , Wall Street or whatever. As far as night cleaners and labourers seeking out retraining in anticipation of being too knackered in old age to carry on- you're having a laugh. You can't be serious . They just slip seamlessly into alternative employment . I don't think so. Edited March 4, 2016 by petemcewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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