PeteMorris Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 They do, and each time they lose a bit of themselves. I just 'stumbled' across this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-snub-190000-strong-petition-calling-for-no-confidence-vote-in-david-cameron-a6740441.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Do they ever actually achieve anything Yes they do dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Yes they do dude Do you have any examples of the current system achieving something credible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogg Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 There is talk in Parliament of responding to the petition to get pensions for women in their late fifties reinstated, albeit at a lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Do you have any examples of the current system achieving something credible? Have a look at the victories on petition sites: https://home.38degrees.org.uk/2014/11/05/save-our-forests-victory/ https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-elephant-abused-in-jyotiba-temple-sukanya-kadyan https://www.change.org/p/stop-shell-s-dangerous-offshore-drilling-exploration-in-the-arctic https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era And thanks to a huge petition on Change.org launched by Arash Derambarsh, a municipal councillor in Courbevoie, France introduced a new law requiring supermarkets to donate unsold food to charity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Have a look at the victories on petition sites: https://home.38degrees.org.uk/2014/11/05/save-our-forests-victory/ https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-elephant-abused-in-jyotiba-temple-sukanya-kadyan https://www.change.org/p/stop-shell-s-dangerous-offshore-drilling-exploration-in-the-arctic https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era And thanks to a huge petition on Change.org launched by Arash Derambarsh, a municipal councillor in Courbevoie, France introduced a new law requiring supermarkets to donate unsold food to charity Laudable efforts, but none of those have had direct government intervention (UK Gov)...that's what I meant. The uk.gov petitions site. Also, it's a tiny number of victories compared with the number raised daily.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 This was a very successful petition that I think will force change: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12193825/Meningitis-B-vaccine-would-be-cost-effective.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 This was a very successful petition that I think will force change: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12193825/Meningitis-B-vaccine-would-be-cost-effective.html Well I do hope so, but I'm doubtful it will...The Gov seem pretty blase about it...Too expensive etc, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Laudable efforts, but none of those have had direct government intervention (UK Gov)...that's what I meant. The uk.gov petitions site 20 petitions debated https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=debated Also, it's a tiny number of victories compared with the number raised daily.. You're right Pete Best do nothing at all eh And just accept our fate (Just as well Nelson Mandela dint have your attitude! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 This was a very successful petition that I think will force change: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12193825/Meningitis-B-vaccine-would-be-cost-effective.html The man who started the petition claims that the extra cost of caring for those who contract meningitis outweighs the cost of giving jabs to older children. I don't know one way or the other as to whether this is correct. If this is the case, then surely those who make the decision should have been including that in any evaluation of the options. If they haven't done this, then there should be some very searching questions as to why not. This is surely a key part of their job. He also says you can't put a price on a child's life. Unfortunately we have to. The NHS will be able to come up with no end of deserving cases. There's no way we can fund everything. Hard decisions have to be made. Cost and benefit are the variables which are considered. I'm glad it's not my job to decide, but I'm glad there are systems and people in place to make these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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